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YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I won’t pay for YouTube as long as they keep trying to make Shorts happen. It’s everything I dislike about the Internet in one feature. Edit: Why would this get downvoted? Do people really find value in shorts?

TikTok has a clunky Web UI (there was an experiment they accidentally rolled out for a day in 2022 to make it much better, but it was rolled back and never seen again). YT Shorts work fairly well. It also supposedly pays out to creators better than TikTok. Although I have to use `document.querySelectorAll('video').forEach(e => e.playbackRate = 2);` in my console for either service since they don't have native playbac…

There are extensions that can do that if you get tired of it (Stop The Madness has an option to restore native video controls which includes playback speed control)

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to pay to have an ad-free experience

If you go to the website, you can hide Shorts for 30 days. There is an X on the top right for the Shorts section. I do that and don’t feel like it’s being forced into my face anymore.

Thanks for this tip. I want to be able to do this on the YouTube apps on my kids’ devices

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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The original founder's list was Dave Wiskus (current CEO), CGP Grey, and a guy behind Kurzgesagt, but yes, the latter two distanced themselves pretty quickly. I don't think there's a single even semi-popular edu-tainment channel that wasn't at least approached by Nebula, but of course not every creator is interested. If I had to guess why, I'd say it's a tradeoff between Patreon/Nebula. You can have both, but you can…

Youtube itself is getting so good at monetization, with more people getting Premium, that it's no longer worth it to pursue other channels at all.

Sure, as long as you don't swear, play even a a couple seconds of copyrighted music, never say any of the "touchy" subjects that would earn you an info box below the video (could be anything from flat earth to covid), and a dozen of other arbitrary, constantly changing rules, YouTube is great on its own. Certainly better than any other popular platform.

However a lot of channels available on Nebula also use it as a place where they don't have to deal with those sometimes nonsensical rules, as a place to publish more "uncensored" versions of their videos. Sometimes they're as simple as not bleeping out the word fuck, sometimes they contain an extra section that would get their entire video demonetized on YouTube (example: showing a piece of art with nudity in it, or pretty much any blood), and sometimes they use it to cover topics that they know YouTube would instantly demonetize (example: pretty much any discussion around armed conflicts).

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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> Do people really find value in shorts? Yes. Obviously. This is an absurd question.

Depending what value means... I think that shorts do not bring any value, just mindless filler. In my books that has no value. Some might disagree.

Obviously people find value in mindless filler - look at junk food, or reality tv

Some people find value in watching other people watch tv, or watch other people play games.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I used to scoff at the idea of paying for YouTube, but I'd absolutely consider it if they had a cheaper plan that excluded YouTube Music.

I still do.

I just started using a minimal ad skipper chrome extension called Clear Skies and youtube is back to being usable.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I’ve learnt about a lot of things through shorts. It’s not just crap

Mind naming some positive examples? All I get is right-wing political propaganda and "Whatever"-podcast antimodernwomen crap. I would pay to get rid of this blatant negativity.

https://youtube.com/shorts/5QUqxmqBOQI?si=Fep5LxAr6Boe6pBn

https://youtube.com/shorts/RxZ77kjmnU8?si=uCNLl3nZCIbLHjk6

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ja1E-OwrVI?si=WNsEVV_yyS-F3khY

https://youtube.com/shorts/FAZpx1EucQw?si=FKQiESLTuhfANGL1

https://youtube.com/shorts/3iotlZfJjH0?si=x3ND5rVR54LbieN9

Those where in the first 10 shorts I got

This is pretty far shy but it’s just fun

https://youtube.com/shorts/j7SByXWWVzU?si=7Et5jRKpEbV93Sia

Had a couple of clips from start trek which came up too.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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If you go to the website, you can hide Shorts for 30 days. There is an X on the top right for the Shorts section. I do that and don’t feel like it’s being forced into my face anymore.

Thanks for this tip. I want to be able to do this on the YouTube apps on my kids’ devices

Unfortunately it only removes the recommendation of shorts but not the short tab on the bottom.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I don't mind the short videos. What I do mind is that they co-opted the word "shorts" which means something else in the context of videos. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024...

Perhaps not: I think your link is talking about "short movies" or "short films". YouTube's Shorts are "short videos". Movies (films) and videos are not the same thing: movies/films are a type of video, but there are many other types of video that are not movies, most notably TV shows, and also "music videos", but really anything that involves a moving picture. A "movie" (or to some, "film") these days is commonly mea…

The term "shorts" is also part of that and is what YouTube was trying to co-opt. In the link you can clearly see the word "shorts" being used to refer to these. Here's one from 2010: https://thescorecardreview.com/tsr/review/film-reviews/2010/...

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Youtube itself is getting so good at monetization, with more people getting Premium, that it's no longer worth it to pursue other channels at all.

Sure, as long as you don't swear, play even a a couple seconds of copyrighted music, never say any of the "touchy" subjects that would earn you an info box below the video (could be anything from flat earth to covid), and a dozen of other arbitrary, constantly changing rules, YouTube is great on its own. Certainly better than any other popular platform. However a lot of channels available on Nebula also use it as a p…

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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Tv has become so insufferable boring that my entire household has stopped watching, except for YouTube. Audible has been picking up and people who live in my house are actually reading books again.

With American television at least, I think you need brain damage to tolerate it. This is why most of the people still watching it are people with dementia in nursing homes.

The core audience has finally been explained to me. Lol. Nice.
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