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Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#61
I've never found terminals in IDE's to be useful.

I run i3 and typically will just open a terminal in a new workspace/monitor and use alt+whatever to flip back and forth between the terminal and the IDE. Terminals in IDE's always try to display the minimum number of lines they can get away with.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#62

I have always wanted a notebook style UI for terminal because I need to go back to what I learnt many times (say AWS CLI commands ...with syntax as well as output saved) The visual separation of each command and output into block seems like a step in that direction?

Why not just use Jupyter? It has a zsh kernel[1]. [1] https://github.com/dan-oak/zsh-jupyter-kernel

Thanks. I didn't realize this was an option.

Will surely check this out.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#63
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get the extreme hate around here for new UI. I turned it on just to see and felt nothing really changed. Maybe it’s because I almost exclusively use keyboard shortcuts? I can already feel the angry replies being smashed into keyboards…

> Maybe it’s because I almost exclusively use keyboard shortcuts? That's a reasonable suspicion, since my biggest gripe with the new UI is how it hides clear, text-based menus and labels behind more confusing icons.

Was there something in particular that you used often that was moved behind a confusing icon?

I don’t really find myself digging through these menus often, instead using the action search for things I don’t know/map the keyboard shortcut to.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

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post #44

A new terminal is nice, I guess. But all I ever wanted was simply the ability to disable line wrap. https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-212620/Allow-a-use... Nobody gets promoted for implementing a line wrap toggle in the old terminal, but they do for creating an entirely new terminal.

Yes! I just responded before I saw this comment. Exactly this! This is so typical of jetbrains, rather than fix a bug they created something that will take weeks to learn, when really we just want our own console that we already know.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#66

My Jetbrains software yearly subscription is the best value for money I pay for anything related to my work! Their software just improves my productivity out of sight. If you look at the prices for other subscriptions, then look at Jetbrains, you wonder, "How do they do it?" I guess they're just really good at software.

DataGrip is the best RDBMS client I've ever used, hands down. It's so far beyond the competition in my experience. Maybe something like SQL Server Management Studio is really great specifically for SQL Server, but DataGrip is fantastic. I wouldn't trust most SQL clients with a production connection honestly. Getting read only constraints and commitable changes in my SQL client is a no-brainer that most other clients I've used didn't have.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#67

My Jetbrains software yearly subscription is the best value for money I pay for anything related to my work! Their software just improves my productivity out of sight. If you look at the prices for other subscriptions, then look at Jetbrains, you wonder, "How do they do it?" I guess they're just really good at software.

Seconded! And I also like how they treat their subscriptions. They reward long-term customers (by giving upto 40% discount on renewals), and even give a fallback license in case you want to stop paying them after a year. Kids do growth hacking, legends do customer retention!

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/getting-started-with-w... This visually does look great, but a login required for a local terminal is a deal breaker for me.

Heh, they make a point to calm users that it can truly be offline, later... at the loss of features. Just log in first, please - 'valuation and stuff' Christ they're pulling all the lead tricks. Supply an email to get a download link at the top, scroll down to find it listed. Borderline insulting

Plz stop to worry. They only need that to help you around in the future, not to do any harm. Imagine you love their non-free offers later on, but don't know how to contact them to share credit card number - what a disruption on your end.

Or maybe not...

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#69

In almost a decade of using Pycharm I have not once used the builtin shell. (Debug console is another matter.) It can never beat the system terminal+shell setup you pick yourself (for me Alacrity+z4h zsh distro). I can only see it as a nice-to-have for when you for some reason cannot install your own terminal. The UI-UX divergence from the system-wide shell setup will always be too wide and incur a learning-curve/fea…

Except that Alacrity is not the system terminal.

Obviously I mean "the terminal application installed on your local host system where you develop".

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

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post #44

A new terminal is nice, I guess. But all I ever wanted was simply the ability to disable line wrap. https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-212620/Allow-a-use... Nobody gets promoted for implementing a line wrap toggle in the old terminal, but they do for creating an entirely new terminal.

That's not nearly as easy as it sounds because terminals are grid based. So expanding the terminal width dynamically due to a lack of LF control character would get very computationally expensive very quickly.
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