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Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#51

I've been waiting for years for the ability to have two of them side by side (edit: you can). Also not really convinced by the new UI (I tried it in Android Studio), mostly because I don't see anything wrong with the "old" one.

Upvote: little things like this somehow make it feel very unusable for me and keep me going back to VSC.

It doesn't even seem like it should be that hard to implement.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#52
post #40

At first glance, I love the idea of the prompt being in a static position, separated from the output. Surprised that this is the first time I've seen something like that.

> At first glance, I love the idea of the prompt being in a static position, separated from the output. Surprised that this is the first time I've seen something like that.

I effectively have that by sticking newlines into my PS1 variable.

And, yes, it's because its easier to track when the prompt is always in the same place after every command.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#53
A few years ago my company moved to using Bazel as our build system. JetBrain IDEs have a plug-in for Bazel that’s incredibly slow and buggy. It’s a shame because I used to really enjoy using their product, but now it’s barely usable.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#54
I'd settle for them fixing text selection in the existing terminal: basic stuff like double-click to select words, triple-click for lines, shift-click to extend selection ... lacking the last one really irks me when I need to select a lot of output. And I'm hearing this new one hijacks ^r, which has long been wired into my muscle memory. I have a lot of reasons to love Jetbrains IDEs, but the terminal is not one of them.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#55

I've been waiting for years for the ability to have two of them side by side (edit: you can). Also not really convinced by the new UI (I tried it in Android Studio), mostly because I don't see anything wrong with the "old" one.

Upvote: little things like this somehow make it feel very unusable for me and keep me going back to VSC. It doesn't even seem like it should be that hard to implement.

I looked it up again and you can actually do it with the split option since apparently 2020, great!

So I stand corrected.

Although it's not restored at launch (unlike the split in the editor).

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#57
Oh wow, this looks horrible. I guess whenever they make this permanent I will be switching back to using a terminal outside of my IDE.

I used to jokingly say "Jetbrains doesn't miss!" at new feature updates, but with the new UI and the force-installed AI Assistant plugin they have been hitting straight gutterballs lately.

Did something change in their leadership?

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#58
post #23

The problem with a lot of these tools is that they fight with the shell to provide the UX enhancements (the comments in this thread are littered with people commenting that this new terminal breaks basic feature X, Y or Z. Really what they should be doing is working with the existing command line primitives as a hook for their UX enhancements. I know those existing primitives are 50 years old and suck in a great many…

100%. What ppl often mixup is shell responsibility and the terminal itself. They are not really to blame for that, because their interactive terminal usage is mostly at a shell prompt.

Idk how they implemented things here, prolly by sidechanneling information to/from the terminal widget. Which is bad, they'd better use in-band terminal sequences for that, so the ecosystem of TEs and cmdline apps can eval the sequences and incorparate them, where they are useful (like the prompt marking OSC sequences...)

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#59
post #7

I'm normally cynical bastard resistant to change. But Jetbrains new IDE styling is really good. I use it in WebStorm everyday and see no reason to move back to the old UI. Kudos Jetbrains.

I don’t get the extreme hate around here for new UI. I turned it on just to see and felt nothing really changed. Maybe it’s because I almost exclusively use keyboard shortcuts? I can already feel the angry replies being smashed into keyboards…

> Maybe it’s because I almost exclusively use keyboard shortcuts?

That's a reasonable suspicion, since my biggest gripe with the new UI is how it hides clear, text-based menus and labels behind more confusing icons.

Re: JetBrains IDE new Terminal Interface

#60

My Jetbrains software yearly subscription is the best value for money I pay for anything related to my work! Their software just improves my productivity out of sight. If you look at the prices for other subscriptions, then look at Jetbrains, you wonder, "How do they do it?" I guess they're just really good at software.

I love Jetbrains products to bits but they better shift gears with their AI integration strategy.
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