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YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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For now that is. I sort of hope someone more motivated than myself makes a timer for how long before the crappification* of YouTube begins now that it appears MBAs will be taking over. The new CEO probably has some gumption, but it seems inevitable. * of course this is subjective, but generally I can find lots of great YouTube content. I can buy premium to avoid the ads and become the client, not the product. 1: http…

The crappification of YouTube has already begon with Shorts and the inability to disable this completely useless content.

On mobile that's the biggest reason I use ReVanced. Sure, blocking ads is nice and all, but I'm paying for premium anyway. I just don't want to see shorts

1: https://github.com/ReVanced

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did they say?

Laura Kampf and Jet Lag. not sure why they were flagged. The former is a DIY channel, not sure what the latter is.

Jet Lag is a travel game show: https://www.youtube.com/@jetlagthegame

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #69

The amount of human knowledge available today on youtube I think nothing will ever come close as apart from formal knowledge we have millions of small hacks improvements that would probably not been written down but have been recorded. If you are dedicated enough today you can go from being a novice to being quite proficient in 100s of different things. And every day the knowledge keeps increasing as well as improvin…

I know it's silly but I sometimes feel anxiety at the prospect of that enormous bank of knowledge getting lost in some way or another (e.g. Google deciding it wants to do something else or some disaster). It is truly invaluable to _humanity_

The medium-term threat is the gradual replacement of that knowledge in search results with AI para-knowledge that looks plausible but is not actually true or useful.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Those who use youtube as TV, what do you watch? Is there a way of consuming YouTube that is more like consuming Netflix, where the 1% (or 0.001%) that is "professional" content is curated somehow? I mean I have no interest in scrolling videos of people eating detergent, I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?…

Youtube is a mirror, it shows you more of what you watch (at least most of the time.) If you can't resist the temptation of clicking on clickbait/trash, it will show more of that to you. How to use youtube: 1. Log out, clear your cookies or clear your watch history. 2. Turn off autoplay. 3. Search for a few high quality videos/channels you have seen before, to seed the recommendation algorithm. I use the "Applied Sci…

I just fail to find much of the content interesting. TV for me is 99% news, sports, or traditional entertainment (Internationally known example: "Jeopardy", just for the sake of discussion). I find YouTube just isn't geared for this. I mean I have lots of narrow interests, but I don't want to watch a 1 hour video of someone discussing the latest stuff in my area of interest no matter how good it is. Because the people in my family who is also in the room would protest. And there is no one I can discuss this with when I have seen it because it's such a slim topic.

I mean if you sit down at lunch today and want to grab a 30min news summary for national news, from a reasonably trustworthy news source how would you even do that on YouTube?

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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It's replaced what was traditional TV in our home. We watch movies, and youtube as if it were tv. Old TV is now either 24 hour garbage news, reality shows, or similar nonesense.

> Old TV is now either 24 hour garbage news, reality shows, or similar nonesense

Take a look at YouTube's trending page. There's clearly a reason for that content on TV.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #58

Not just in the USA. YouTube is my only vvideo source. And to add insult to injury, local legislation has it that I have to pay 60E/month for the local, basically state-controlled TV/radio/news station, although I dont consume its content. YouTube, which is what I use daily, only costs about 1/6th of that. Oh, and there is only one democratic party against this practice. The far-right. All the others seem to love thi…

What country is that? That's a lot. At least in the UK if you don't watch regular TV you don't have to pay the licence fee (£159/year).

We used to have an the ability to opt-out from TV and only pay for radio, which is what I did for many years. However, since January this year, the system has been reformed and the ability to opt-out from TV was removed. So now I pay 35/mo more for a service I dont use. Besides, I am blind. So billing me for TV is a joke by itself.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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post #58

Not just in the USA. YouTube is my only vvideo source. And to add insult to injury, local legislation has it that I have to pay 60E/month for the local, basically state-controlled TV/radio/news station, although I dont consume its content. YouTube, which is what I use daily, only costs about 1/6th of that. Oh, and there is only one democratic party against this practice. The far-right. All the others seem to love thi…

>The far-right. All the others seem to love this practice. Thank you democracy, you're useless. If you poll the voters, and the non-far-right voters generally approve of this, then democracy is working as intended. Just because you don't like the results doesn't mean the majority of your countrymen don't.

Its not that simple. Since the only party opposing this practice is far-right and mostly non-votable, nobody in their right mind has the option to vote for a party which does not support this practice. That is when democracy fails. When all the parties team up to support something they want done, and the people basically have no option to vote against.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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If someone mentions a TV show and I search for it, there will be 100 reviews of the show, 1000 short clips of the show. Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. Whether or not the actual content is ON youtube (which is the question my search is trying to answer) you'll get thousands of search results. In the off chance that the actual content of the show is ac…

But that isn't the intended use case for YT? How are you expecting to watch a professionally produced TV show on YT for free? YT offers a catalogue of tv shows and films that you can purchase and watch on the site but I'm confused why you think you'd be able to search for a tv show and be presented with every episode nicely catalogued in order? YT has always been focused on user generated content - however in recent…

There is tons of professionally produced content on YouTube. And that’s all I want curated, professional content. But it’s hard to find.

YouTube has about as much commercials as the broadcast TV I watch (a lot of which is free and all of which is professionally produced) so I can’t see how YouTube could never have pro content. Their paid subscription also costs quite a bit so just having e.g recent news broadcasts there - which are already produced anyway - doesn’t seem impossible either. I don’t want to watch GoT I want to see a 2004 sitcom or yesterdays BBC news at 6…

BBC news has a page with recent clips - but that’s not a news broadcast. It’s not “TV” just like an rss feed with news studies isn’t a newspaper. TV news requires curation, not merely moving pictures with news.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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I’m on the verge of getting Youtube Premium I didn't really like their “annoyance” style of advertising that, but competitors got worse There are no DJ mixes on Soundcloud or Spotify any longer, and other platforms are a combination of unused or no mobile app so I’ll go ahead and get rid of the ads now for just that, but along with everything else on youtube

> no DJ mixes on Soundcloud

I'd say there's two types of them: independent mixes (someone just recorded a DJ set for the fun of it), and podcast-like radio shows, usually backed by a label. The first group is getting kinda smaller, but the second group is definitely more on Soundcloud than anywhere else -- it's just completely undiscoverable. Sometimes it goes to the artist profile, sometimes it has its own "radio show" profile, and Soundcloud does fuck all in terms of displaying such "podcasts" separately.

For me the most interesting of the platforms in this niche is Mixcloud, whose whole concept is streaming DJ mixes, legally, with some of the money somehow going back to the artists whose records you play. But to negotiatate that sort of legality they had to introduce some rather unexpected restrictions, like how many songs you can play by one artist, how many from a certain album, how many consective songs by artist/album... So it's fine in most cases, but doing something like "best of Daft Punk" mix would go against the rules.

And with YouTube it's pretty much a dice roll. A common tactic is to upload an unlisted blank video with the snippets of the music you want to record yourself playling and see how lucky you get with the copyright algorithm. Sometimes a certain song you want to play is just a no-go, so you have to swap it for a different one before recording yourself, otherwise all your effort goes straight to trash, never to be seen by anyone. And you get up to three strikes in a 90 day period, so you can't be too regular with your uploads.

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