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The killer app of Gemini Pro 1.5 is using video as an input

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Post by te_chris »

dEnigma wrote: post #252

> It looks like the safety filter may have taken offense to the word “Cocktail”! I'm definitely not a fan of these severely hamstrung by default models. Especially as it seems to be based on an extremely puritan ethical system.

Silicon Valley has been auto-parodic morals-wise for a while. Hell, just the basics of you can have super violent gaming but woe-betide you look at anything sex related in the appstores is intensely comedic. America desperately tries to export its puritanism but most of us just shrug (along with many Americans). Surely it's hard to argue that being open about sex (for consenting adults) is infinitely preferable to a world of wanton, easily accessible violence.

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Post by BlueTemplar »

dewey wrote: post #363
prmoustache wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't monetization so low on youtube that it is more worthy as an advertising platform for your sponsors, patreon subscriptions and merchandising than anything?

That probably really depends on your audience what kind of monetization scheme makes sense for you, but all of them depend on traffic, getting discovered and having subscribers. I doubt there's many sponsors for videos hosted on a Peertube instance. Nothing against the technology or the idea of federating (which I like), but telling people to just get off YouTube and switch to Peertube is a very unrealistic and naive…

And yet something like this happened for Twitter => Mastodon. And at some point YouTubers did not have sponsors either.

Re: The killer app of Gemini Pro 1.5 is using video as an input

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Post by te_chris »

MyFirstSass wrote: post #71

Ok, crazy tangent; Where agents will potentially become extremely useful/dystopian is when they just silently watch your entire screen at all times. Isolated, encrypted and local preferably. Imagine it just watching you coding for months, planning stuff, researching things, it could potentially give you personal and professional advice from deep knowledge about you. "I noticed you code this way, may i recommend this…

I could've used this before where I accidentally booked a non-transferrable flight on a day where I'd also booked tickets to a sold out concert I want(ed) to attend.

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Post by dewey »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #412
dewey wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That probably really depends on your audience what kind of monetization scheme makes sense for you, but all of them depend on traffic, getting discovered and having subscribers. I doubt there's many sponsors for videos hosted on a Peertube instance. Nothing against the technology or the idea of federating (which I like), but telling people to just get off YouTube and switch to Peertube is a very unrealistic and naive…

And yet something like this happened for Twitter => Mastodon. And at some point YouTubers did not have sponsors either.

Mastodon is a very tiny tiny sliver of the user base of Twitter and the people who migrated there (myself included) are not “creators” that make money through their audience.

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Post by nolok »

miroljub wrote: post #405

It's Google. I'd rather avoid sharing my thoughts and interests with this Borg-like entity.

Either you run it fully locally, or you accept that whoever runs it has access to your thoughts and interests.

Whether you go with microsoft, google, meta, or whatever apple will come up with, it feels like a case of "stay out, or make a pick and stick to it".

I know some have different feelings regarding this or that company that is "better" or "worse", but the reality of it is they're not, and even if they were you don't know where they will be in ten years, and they will still have your data then.

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Post by nicbou »

dEnigma wrote: post #252

> It looks like the safety filter may have taken offense to the word “Cocktail”! I'm definitely not a fan of these severely hamstrung by default models. Especially as it seems to be based on an extremely puritan ethical system.

I was fighting with ChatGPT yesterday because it wouldn't translate "fuck". I was quoting Office Space's "PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?"

Likewise it won't generate passive-aggressive answers meant for comedic reasons.

I hate having to negotiate with AI like it's a difficult child.

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Post by crooked-v »

nolok wrote: post #415
miroljub wrote: post #405

It's Google. I'd rather avoid sharing my thoughts and interests with this Borg-like entity.

Either you run it fully locally, or you accept that whoever runs it has access to your thoughts and interests. Whether you go with microsoft, google, meta, or whatever apple will come up with, it feels like a case of "stay out, or make a pick and stick to it". I know some have different feelings regarding this or that company that is "better" or "worse", but the reality of it is they're not, and even if they were you…

I think Apple may do interesting things here with their rumored focus in purely on-device LLM functionality across the OS, taking advantage of all the hardware work they've put into efficiency and 'Neural Engine' cores. This year's WWDC may be quite interesting.

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Post by prmoustache »

dewey wrote: post #414
BlueTemplar wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet something like this happened for Twitter => Mastodon. And at some point YouTubers did not have sponsors either.

Mastodon is a very tiny tiny sliver of the user base of Twitter and the people who migrated there (myself included) are not “creators” that make money through their audience.

Well there are some, but they have some presence elsewhere including youtube anyway.

Leaving only twitter is relatively easy.

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Post by scheeseman486 »

Angostura wrote: post #403
baby wrote: post #393

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Deeply agree with the sentiment. AIs are so throttled and crippled that it makes me sad every time gemini or chatgpt refuses to answer my questions. Also agree that it’s mostly policed by American companies who follow the American culture of “swearing is bad, nudity is horrible, some words shouldn’t even be said”

So how crippled would you like them to be? Would you put any guard rails in place?

These guard rails might curtail abuse of the web-based applications of these models for a while, but any locally run model can (and in many cases already do) have these protections stripped out of them.

I'd like control over what the guard rails do. I'd still use them under most circumstances, there's things I definitely do not want to generate, but if a word filter is getting in my way I'd like the ability to get rid of it.

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