Show HN: htmz – a low power tool for HTML

Post by niutech » Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 2:50 AM UTC

bb88 wrote: post #164

recursivedoubts wrote: post #66

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I'm the creator of htmx and think this is a great library/snippet. Much closer to what htmx-like functionality in HTML would/should look like in that it is following existing norms (iframes, the target attribute) much more closely than htmx. From a practical perspective, a lot of the bulk of htmx is bound up in things like history support, collecting inputs, a lot of callbacks/events to allow people to plug into thin…

Thanks for HTMX, I think it's showing the world what the web browser could be. I'm going to be doing a lot of web pages in HTMX in the next couple of years, and it will be much easier to develop/debug than javascript.

Post by niutech » Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 2:56 AM UTC

simpaticoder wrote: post #27

Kalabasa wrote: post #19

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Yeah it breaks without JS. You could add the iframe behind JS, so the target would default to a new tab. But the server would still be designed to return HTML fragments. I never found a way for a server to check if the originating request is for an iframe or a new tab. It's not quite a graceful degradation.

> I never found a way for a server to check if the originating request is for an iframe or a new tab. There is no such technique. One way to distinguish is to pick a URL convention and modify the URL (before the hash) of the iframe URL. For example, add ?iframe=true to the URL, and then have the server check for that. Perhaps more usefully you could include information about the parent URL, e.g. url += '?parent=${doc…

Post by niutech » Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 7:47 PM UTC

buremba wrote: post #178

I wonder how feasible it is to create htmz / htmx -like lightweight library with the support for React/Vue/Stelve using web components. I agree that 90% of the use-cases you don’t need React but for the last 10%, most of us are stuck with these bloated frameworks. Astro has a similar idea but it’s working as a full framework instead of being a library. Considering the limitations with Astro, I guess the biggest bottl…

Post by niutech » Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 7:53 PM UTC

gpnt wrote: post #240

Well, you are using javascript anyway so here it is a 163 bytes solution without the back button problem and iframe hack: onclick=async e=>{x=e.target.dataset.x;if(x){e.preventDefault();document.querySelector(x).innerHTML=await fetch(e.target.href).then(r=>r.text())}} Hi doesn't works with form though.

Post by mlekoszek » Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 9:41 PM UTC