Canada needs to reinstate the national port police, and actually do their job in policing.
Policy changes for cars or technology will not solve the lawlessness in Canada.
Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
41–50 of 916 posts
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Companies that put out egregiously vulnerable vehicles should be held liable, though.
We'll end up banning windows at this rate, they're an egregious vulnerability in cars and buildings alike. American cities, soft on crime, can't stop thieves from breaking windows so maybe they'll go after car manufacturers and construction firms instead. Going after companies instead of criminals is more aligned with their left-wing sensibilities, I think that's what this is really about.
That's not what egregious means.
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The answer is simple, we need to ban android tablets. /s
Fix the cars. A brand new $60,000 car shouldn’t be so simple to swipe. They probably spent less time stealing my neighbors car than he did waiting on the credit check to buy the car lol… it’s crazy these days with cars.
Cars are computers now.
What do we know about computer security and physical access? If I can touch the machine, I can hack and own it.
No level of technology will stop this.
But cutting off the profit motive by making it very hard to export cars will have a massive impact on these crimes, and for old and new cars.
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#44Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah! If we make it illegal, then people will stop breaking the laws. That is how it works, right?
Maybe we could try enforcing those laws with no mercy given to the "wayward teens who don't know any better" (they do.)
This logic depends on law-breakers being fully rational agents.
Yes, there are some, at least some of the time, but very few.
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#46Sooo they have been stealing Infiniti's from my area recently with relative ease allegedly by using a Bluetooth obd2 reader connected to an android tablet running a pirated copy of some Nissan service tech software. Nobody from any of the Infiniti groups is 100% certain how they are doing it, but the best theory out there is above. Just the other night, a crew of dudes stole 3 Q50’s from my neighborhood with relative…
The answer is simple, we need to ban android tablets. /s
"Kill all humans!" ~ Bender B. Rodriguez
Headline the next day: "Crime rate on Earth now at an all-time low of zero percent!"
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#47Sooo they have been stealing Infiniti's from my area recently with relative ease allegedly by using a Bluetooth obd2 reader connected to an android tablet running a pirated copy of some Nissan service tech software. Nobody from any of the Infiniti groups is 100% certain how they are doing it, but the best theory out there is above. Just the other night, a crew of dudes stole 3 Q50’s from my neighborhood with relative…
Obviously, we want owners to have full access to their car's CANBUS. So the question is: how should the OBD-2 plug (or wiring) be protected?
All CANBUS packages that are useful to drive a car should be encrypted using a public/private key that is in the owner key. Decryption chips are cheap and fast.
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#48This has to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. All vehicles are insecure. I can hook a tow truck to almost any vehicle, including an 80,000 lbs tractor trailer and drive off with it. That'd actually attract less attention that outright hotwiring a vehicle. The solution is to identify, arrest, and prosecute criminals. Which the government is not obligated to do in the US.
[deleted]
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#49This has to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. All vehicles are insecure. I can hook a tow truck to almost any vehicle, including an 80,000 lbs tractor trailer and drive off with it. That'd actually attract less attention that outright hotwiring a vehicle. The solution is to identify, arrest, and prosecute criminals. Which the government is not obligated to do in the US.
This is about Canada, but rant away.
Re: Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero
#50This has to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. All vehicles are insecure. I can hook a tow truck to almost any vehicle, including an 80,000 lbs tractor trailer and drive off with it. That'd actually attract less attention that outright hotwiring a vehicle. The solution is to identify, arrest, and prosecute criminals. Which the government is not obligated to do in the US.
We already identify, arrest, and prosecute criminals, we just don't hand out custodial sentences. Being in jail/prison sucks and is a good incentive to not steal cars. Plus it is impossible to steal cars while locked up.