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Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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I've always heard Discover was a good company to work for and they had the best customer support. Capital One is the opposite of both of those things so I hope the government steps in here.

I know someone who wasted two years trying to use a capital one secured credit card to help rebuild their credit history. The initial card offer was a $300 secured card and they figured it was the best they could do, ho hum, and just patiently plugged away For two years, they used the card routinely, paid if off religiously...sometimes having a monthly spend three times the limit. They would periodically request eith…

This is the strategy… someone else always wants you more than the company that’s already got you.. seems to work for telecommunications contracts as well

Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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post #114

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The first sentence made it sound like you were gonna go on a desudesudesu.io rant

Want to explain what that means for the uninitiated?

http://desudesudesu.io

Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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It doesn't "hallucinate." It provides incorrect output. That is all.

"Hallucination" is a widely understood and accepted term in the LLM industry. If you want to change that, replying to my comment doesn't seem to be the most effective place to start. I don't know that it's the best term, but it seems better than re-explaining the issue in detail every time. "Incorrect output" is broader, encompassing other failure modes. If you ask an LLM to respond in JSON with a list of common food…

"Incorrect output" is still correct to describe the cited behavior. "Hallucination" isn't. If a human behaves the same way when asked a question, we do not say he's hallucinating.

One way to devalue incorrect terminology is to call it out when you see it, and use something accurate instead. That's how people learn.

Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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That's what he said. There's nothing wrong with it, either. And don't bother pretending to think that he wants the government to use his opinion as justification. That's obviously where you're going, so don't insult the rest of us by continuing.

I'll continue, this is absurd. No, the government shouldn't be stepping in to stop this. The FTC should evaluate this deal just like any others and possibly slow/stop it if it finds major anti-trust issues.

So you don't consider the FTC to be "the government?"

Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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> I've always heard Discover was a good company to work for and they had the best customer support. Capital One is the opposite of both of those things so I hope the government steps in here. You want the government to step in because you don’t like what you’ve heard about capital one’s customer service and work culture?

That's what he said. There's nothing wrong with it, either. And don't bother pretending to think that he wants the government to use his opinion as justification. That's obviously where you're going, so don't insult the rest of us by continuing.

Well what's wrong with it is that:

1) It's hearsay

2) It's completely subjective

3) Even if everyone agrees its true including the companies, it doesn't constitute a legal basis for government intervention

Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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post #91

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I'll continue, this is absurd. No, the government shouldn't be stepping in to stop this. The FTC should evaluate this deal just like any others and possibly slow/stop it if it finds major anti-trust issues.

So you don't consider the FTC to be "the government?"

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Re: Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35B stock deal

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I feel like we're talking past each other here. What I'm saying is that it's hard to tell if the usary limits actually provide a benefit to the borrowers. And I'm discussing the topics related to figuring out if they do or don't. And what you appear to be saying is that we need those limits because we've always had those limits, and because limits are good. And that the limits don't limit people because secured credi…

Well I'm also saying that those limits exist because of historical reasons, and those reasons were derived from issues in the past, and we should examine that context, and logic for those laws, before questioning if we need usury laws. Why? Because they've done a lot of research, and there was lead up, there were issues, that caused those laws to exist. Study that, before we ponder is what I say.

> Well I'm also saying that those limits exist because of historical reasons, and those reasons were derived from issues in the past, and we should examine that context, and logic for those laws, before questioning if we need usury laws.

Yes, I understand and agree with the concept of Chesterton's Fence. And examining that context and the logic for those laws is precisely what I'm trying to do here.

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