Live data from Hacker News

What is going on in Argentina?

memoirsandrambles.substack.com

31–40 of 184 posts

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#31

>And Argentinians, thank you and best of luck. Just please let’s do better lunches than milanesa con papas next time, deal? Milanesas are a godsend tbh though

Knew this would be a bit of a contentious point! Have you seen how we do lunches in Brazil though?

(search for images about 'self service brasil' for instance)

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#32
The current blue rate is 1100 but it was 13 when we visited Argentine 10 years ago. Back then, 100 peso bank note was actually quite convenient.

Peso lost value hundredfold in a decade. Go figure.

The whole country has left a disorganized feel back then, so when we hopped the border over to Chile we felt we're having a vacation in a vacation.

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#34

Argentina has been like this for a very long time. I studied abroad there in 2019 and it was exactly the same. I believe one of the reasons Brian Armstrong started Coinbase was because he saw how devastating inflation was to Argentina’s economy. Argentina was at one point a top 20 country in the world wealth wise and has obviously gone very down hill. It’s too bad, a lot of talented tech workers there.

Argentina didn't really go down hill.

Constant GDP per capita is up ~50% from 1960: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NYGDPPCAPKDARG

The GDP of the rest of the world went up a lot more than that [1] - and Argentina never did anything besides have decent weather and a roughly constant amount of fertile land.

It's kind of like a Dutch Disease: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=eMGt

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#35

It’s the shock doctrine again.

Argentina has been both badly treated by the international financial system AND completely failed to fix their own problems. After agricultural export collapsed mid-century they've failed to develop better export industries except a bit of tourism.

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#37

Argentina has been like this for a very long time. I studied abroad there in 2019 and it was exactly the same. I believe one of the reasons Brian Armstrong started Coinbase was because he saw how devastating inflation was to Argentina’s economy. Argentina was at one point a top 20 country in the world wealth wise and has obviously gone very down hill. It’s too bad, a lot of talented tech workers there.

Inflation is a symptom, not the cause.

Not sure how Argentinians are supposed to do better using cryptocurrencies.

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#38
post #2

I submitted a transcript from Javier Milei's address at the 54th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, which I think explains a bit about what is happening, and what is about to happen, from the eyes of the newly elected president who has pretty strong and "out of the ordinary" opinions and ideas. It got some upvotes, but sadly no discussions at all. Highly relevant when discussing Argentina at the moment thoug…

thanks, this is great

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#39

They elected a freakin' maniac and they're gonna pay a heavy price for that. In Brazil we have a saying "pior que tá não fica", which translates to something like "it cannot get worse than this". Belive me when I say this: it can (and probably will) get worse. It can (and probably will) get SO MUCH worse. We tasted this poison with 4 years of Bolsonaro trying to get away from the establishment. What did we get in ret…

Also unlike here in Brazil, from some interviews I felt like all (ok, most) argentinians were rooting that Milei's measures have a positive impact, even people that didn't vote for him. That did strike me as a very mature position.

Re: What is going on in Argentina?

#40
post #27

They elected a freakin' maniac and they're gonna pay a heavy price for that. In Brazil we have a saying "pior que tá não fica", which translates to something like "it cannot get worse than this". Belive me when I say this: it can (and probably will) get worse. It can (and probably will) get SO MUCH worse. We tasted this poison with 4 years of Bolsonaro trying to get away from the establishment. What did we get in ret…

We've tested many different ideologies and organisational structures just in the last few hundred years. Currently we have a successful but pretty crappy form of capitalism. Some countries have experimented with Communism, fascism, oligarchy (ism)?), feudalism ect ect. Why not give libertarianism a shot?

>Why not give libertarianism a shot?

Because it's capitalism on steroids? Are you not aware of the world we're living in? Every major forest destroyed, countless species exctinct, climate change reaching point of no return, etc.

We urgently need to slow down, not speed up.

Post reply on HN