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Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by amigasource-com » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 3:30 AM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #30

amigasource-com wrote: post #26

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Shameless plug... I do! Big Old List of EVERY Custom Amiga Chip and Chipset Name I Could Find https://amigasource.com/bol.php Please visit AmigaSource.com!!! Since 2001... Your BEST source for Amiga information. Again... ** Always Under Construction ** (Over 3000+ Amiga links for your viewing pleasure! -- Please help spread the word!)

Gave a hopeful click, was disappointed. I expected to see all chip revisions (the multiple agnus, denise, gary, buster...), with any known differences they have. Instead, it's just a list of custom chips, not covering their versions.

Sorry to hear you're disappointed and it didn't meet your HIGH level of expectations. As I stated this was MY attempt to make the MOST COMPLETE list available of EVERY KNOWN custom chip by NAME for the Amiga and few more added in for good measure! Again BY NAME!! Not perfect but pretty damn complete.

It wasn't meant to be the most comprehensive list with every version, date of manufacture, plant of origin, pin outs, know bugs, voltage & timing charts, die shots, etc... for each of them. Maybe someday but not today...

Hopefully I made it easy enough for anyone to point out errors or to add a bit of information. Just click the 'COMMENT' link.

Now I'll ask YOU... Do you happen to know of a site that has a MORE COMPLETE listing? If so PLEASE do share or maybe you have a list of your own? I would LOVE to compare.

Just trying to do my SMALL part for the community as I have been doing for the past 22 years...

oh and to you point how about this page for starters. Sadly it only exists on archive.org. (For reference see SOURCES #)

or their main page https://web.archive.org/web/20040427055954/http://www.vgr.co...

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by Gorilla1000kg » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 7:00 AM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #29

Gorilla1000kg wrote: post #16

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The situation surrounding Amiga's legacy and its preservation is significantly more complex than it appears at first glance. Cloanto, holding a sincere desire for the Amiga's continuity, possesses the rights for the emulation of version 3.1. On the other hand, Hyperion Entertainment, which holds the rights to AmigaOS 4, opted for the PowerPC architecture over x86 to protect its niche in game porting, fearing that a t…

>Cloanto, holding a sincere desire for the Amiga's continuity, >integrity and commitment >He's a good guy. Please. You don't have to step in to defend someone who's keeping AmigaOS source code tightly locked up. Nevermind open source; it's not even available for preservation. But I still agree Hyperion is most evil.

Cloanto does not singularly hold the authority to make AmigaOS open source. As you well know, the ownership and legal rights to AmigaOS have been entangled in intricate legal matters, particularly following the involvement of Hyperion Entertainment and the settlement agreement under Amiga Inc.

Mike, as part of the new Amiga company, is in a legal position that potentially allows for such a transition. However, decisions around making AmigaOS open source are not solely at his discretion but are influenced by a web of legal agreements and considerations.

"At the end of December 2015, Austrian self-proclaimed "hacktivist" Mr. Bernhard R. Fischer gave a speech titled "The Ultimate Amiga 500 Talk" [236] at the 32th Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany. At about the same time as the speech, during which Mr. Bernhard R. Fischer cited his own past as a "cracker" and "spreader", the proprietary source code of Amiga OS 3.1 was leaked to that same event's file sharing network, and immediately became public [237]. Analysis of this leaked source code revealed how Cloanto had contributed to the Amiga operating system as far back as 1993 [230], leading to some speculation on whether it could use this status in relation to the complex legal proceedings between Hyperion Entertainment and the Amiga parties, and in the context of an open source scenario. Between 2016 and 2017, Cloanto added some details about "possible futures involving open source, a nonprofit and/or foundation, and other long-term preservation scenarios" to its cloanto.org page [238]. In what seemed like a response to this, Hyperion Entertainment director Mr. Timothy De Groote stated that "We cannot legally support this. Once it is open source, this is an irreversible decision that is beyond the scope of our license under the Amiga Inc. Settlement Agreement." [240]."

For a more detailed understanding, please read the Amiga Documents https://sites.google.com/site/amigadocuments/

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by mrslippery » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 8:59 AM UTC

amigasource-com wrote: post #31

snvzz wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gave a hopeful click, was disappointed. I expected to see all chip revisions (the multiple agnus, denise, gary, buster...), with any known differences they have. Instead, it's just a list of custom chips, not covering their versions.

Sorry to hear you're disappointed and it didn't meet your HIGH level of expectations. As I stated this was MY attempt to make the MOST COMPLETE list available of EVERY KNOWN custom chip by NAME for the Amiga and few more added in for good measure! Again BY NAME!! Not perfect but pretty damn complete. It wasn't meant to be the most comprehensive list with every version, date of manufacture, plant of origin, pin outs,…

Wow! Holy triggered Batman! It's 1.) sad that you can't take any constructive criticism and 2.) care so much about the opinion of a stranger on the internet.

The mental instability in the Amiga community is RIFE.

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by amigasource-com » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 12:14 PM UTC

mrslippery wrote: post #33

amigasource-com wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to hear you're disappointed and it didn't meet your HIGH level of expectations. As I stated this was MY attempt to make the MOST COMPLETE list available of EVERY KNOWN custom chip by NAME for the Amiga and few more added in for good measure! Again BY NAME!! Not perfect but pretty damn complete. It wasn't meant to be the most comprehensive list with every version, date of manufacture, plant of origin, pin outs,…

Wow! Holy triggered Batman! It's 1.) sad that you can't take any constructive criticism and 2.) care so much about the opinion of a stranger on the internet. The mental instability in the Amiga community is RIFE.

Yup I guess I was a bit 'triggered'. Guilty as charged. Funny how quickly this can happen from a random stranger's comment. Sometimes it's hard not to take things personally and try and defend your work. And in our little dysfunctional, fractured community it does happen from time to time. For what it's worth my reply WAS a bit 'over the top' and for that I do apologize. Trust me I've been around the Amiga community since the beginning and should have known better.

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by snvzz » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 12:30 PM UTC

amigasource-com wrote: post #34

mrslippery wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow! Holy triggered Batman! It's 1.) sad that you can't take any constructive criticism and 2.) care so much about the opinion of a stranger on the internet. The mental instability in the Amiga community is RIFE.

Yup I guess I was a bit 'triggered'. Guilty as charged. Funny how quickly this can happen from a random stranger's comment. Sometimes it's hard not to take things personally and try and defend your work. And in our little dysfunctional, fractured community it does happen from time to time. For what it's worth my reply WAS a bit 'over the top' and for that I do apologize. Trust me I've been around the Amiga community…

Could have been worded better on my end.

I am loving the page you've linked to, and how they even had the same info in an AmigaGuide. Quite sad that it needs to be through Internet Archive's waybackmachine. Good old WWW is mostly gone.

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by amigasource-com » Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 9:34 PM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #35

amigasource-com wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup I guess I was a bit 'triggered'. Guilty as charged. Funny how quickly this can happen from a random stranger's comment. Sometimes it's hard not to take things personally and try and defend your work. And in our little dysfunctional, fractured community it does happen from time to time. For what it's worth my reply WAS a bit 'over the top' and for that I do apologize. Trust me I've been around the Amiga community…

Could have been worded better on my end. I am loving the page you've linked to, and how they even had the same info in an AmigaGuide. Quite sad that it needs to be through Internet Archive's waybackmachine. Good old WWW is mostly gone.

Again... My overreaction...

Yes I agree. That's a very informative page that we can thank archive.org for saving!

Over the years I have come across a lot of sites & threads that go indepth on certain chips but knowing the amount of work it would involve to sort through and the fact that sometimes the information isn't quite as accurate as they would lead you to beleve I never started to complie it into one big list. But maybe I should start.

Here's a few more sites you might find interesting

-Collection of Amiga part numbers collected while refurbishing repair an Amiga 500 Rev 8.1a in november 2013 https://pmsoft.nl/amiga/amiga-parts-chips.html

-Amiga Realm - RESOURCES: Chipset Part Numbers https://www.amigarealm.com/resources/chipset.htm

-or some detailed info directly from the man himself, Mr Dave Haynie (another one from archive.org) https://web.archive.org/web/20190508234750/www.thule.no/hayn...

-And here's one more link. This is a master listing of Commodore's TECHTOPICS. There are no links from this page but previously I did spend some time and tried to find everone on the list http://www.amiga-stuff.com/service-documentation/commodore-t...

-My quick and dirty page of TT links from above. It's not until # 28 where they start talking about the Amiga https://amigasource.com/techtopics.php

Hopefully this helps!

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by snvzz » Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 5:57 AM UTC

amigasource-com wrote: post #36

snvzz wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could have been worded better on my end. I am loving the page you've linked to, and how they even had the same info in an AmigaGuide. Quite sad that it needs to be through Internet Archive's waybackmachine. Good old WWW is mostly gone.

Again... My overreaction... Yes I agree. That's a very informative page that we can thank archive.org for saving! Over the years I have come across a lot of sites & threads that go indepth on certain chips but knowing the amount of work it would involve to sort through and the fact that sometimes the information isn't quite as accurate as they would lead you to beleve I never started to complie it into one big list.…

Very nice, thank you.

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by amigasource-com » Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 2:28 PM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #37

amigasource-com wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again... My overreaction... Yes I agree. That's a very informative page that we can thank archive.org for saving! Over the years I have come across a lot of sites & threads that go indepth on certain chips but knowing the amount of work it would involve to sort through and the fact that sometimes the information isn't quite as accurate as they would lead you to beleve I never started to complie it into one big list.…

Very nice, thank you.

You're welcome! And you every want to help making 'the most complete list of Amiga chips and ther versions' feel free to drop me an email at the site. Lord knows I could use the helo! lol

Re: Amiga Emulator: WinUAE 5.2.0

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Post by satanufn » Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 12:33 PM UTC

snvzz wrote: post #30

amigasource-com wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug... I do! Big Old List of EVERY Custom Amiga Chip and Chipset Name I Could Find https://amigasource.com/bol.php Please visit AmigaSource.com!!! Since 2001... Your BEST source for Amiga information. Again... ** Always Under Construction ** (Over 3000+ Amiga links for your viewing pleasure! -- Please help spread the word!)

Gave a hopeful click, was disappointed. I expected to see all chip revisions (the multiple agnus, denise, gary, buster...), with any known differences they have. Instead, it's just a list of custom chips, not covering their versions.

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