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Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

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Honestly it's just rude to tell guests how to act. Yes ruder than them using their phones in a way you don't approve of.

> Honestly it's just rude to tell guests how to act Do you tell them not to break furniture, or swear in-front of children, or leave trash out? This is the person's home. I also have no issues with setting limits on guests. It means that my home is a safe place and everyone within it knows how to act. It also means everyone is welcome as long as they abide by the rules; no matter what their background is. or to put a…

I agree. It seems like the wrong way around to say that it's rude to tell guests how to act; guests are supposed to be polite to the hosts and follow their rules. It's why you might put your feet up on the table at your own house, but not at someone else's house unless they give you permission.

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

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I don’t really understand why this guy’s articles are so popular here. He comes up with some utterly ridiculous statements. And he - deliberately, I think - elides key things to make his point. If that’s not deliberate then he doesn’t have a basic understanding of the industries he claims know about - and write about.

His point about the Sony/Jackson song catalogue deal is a perfect example. He deliberately conflates several different things.

1. Buying an existing catalogue which generates predictable revenue is very different to taking a risky bet on an unknown artist. Music rights are traded like an asset class these days, and there are simple revenue multiples plus some other factors used to determine value. $1.2 billion for one of the most successful collections of songs in history is a good deal.

2. Investing in songs is not the same as investing in an artist - or even investing in recordings. A song pays whenever it is used. If someone records a version of a song written by Michael Jackson then whoever owns the song gets paid quite separate to whoever gets paid for the recording. If Thriller is played on the radio pretty much anywhere in the world the owner of the song gets paid. The owner of the recording only sometimes gets paid.

3. He says “no label would spend a fraction” of $1.2 billion “launching new artists”. And yet in 2022 Warner Music Group spent almost exactly that amount on A&R costs developing and launching new artists. In the same year UMG spent nearly $4 billion.

“Music may be in the worse state of them all. Just consider Sony’s huge move a few days ago—investing in Michael Jackson’s song catalog at a valuation of $1.2 billion. No label would invest even a fraction of that amount in launching new artists.”

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#43

This error really bothers me: >How can pursuing pleasure lead to less pleasure? But that’s how our brains are wired (perhaps as a protective mechanism). At a certain point, addicts still pursue the stimulus, but more to avoid the pain of dopamine deprivation. People addicted to painkillers have the same experience. Beyond a certain level, opioid dependence actually makes the pain worse. This is simply incorrect when…

Most of what this guy says is incorrect

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#44

I agree with most of the article and from the technology angle what is missed is that the addictive dopamine hits are individually tailored with machine learning. The "engagement" optimization process that started with online advertising and social media is now getting applied directly to content creation and curation and delivery. Alcohol and other drugs were at least fairly nonspecific and generic; very few people…

Worth reading quality land. It's about that last point you made.

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#45
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> nobody can stay off their phones for more than 5 minutes Host something more interactive like board games, or have a faraday cage ready at the entrance for the phones and everyone has agreed to put them in there, or both! We’re all addicted and suffocated by our devices so we have to start carving out air pockets somewhere.

One thing that survived is Poker Night. Seems that at least when there's money at stake (even a small amount) people pay attention!

And poker means no phones!

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#46

What's fascinating about this article is that the very style it's written in is a symptom of the problems it's addressing. Nearly every paragraph is a bite-sized one or two sentence dopamine hit.

It’s an arrangement of ideas with a bombastic myopic conclusion. As someone in entertainment and art, I’m seeing more keen interest in the real thing than ever. It’s never been an easy business, but the important work always happens. Art always finds a way - that little fish is super important.

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#47

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For what it's worth, my household has some strict rules—even for guests—about leaving phones at the entrance. My kids aren't allowed phones in their rooms, and we don't use phones in family spaces unless we have an explicit reason to do so. And even then, the phones typically don't leave the general area where we keep them. I don't warn people as they enter, but if they start using it in the home I'll say something l…

Honestly it's just rude to tell guests how to act. Yes ruder than them using their phones in a way you don't approve of.

Boundaries are healthy and people are free to associate with folks who draw similar lines.

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

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This error really bothers me: >How can pursuing pleasure lead to less pleasure? But that’s how our brains are wired (perhaps as a protective mechanism). At a certain point, addicts still pursue the stimulus, but more to avoid the pain of dopamine deprivation. People addicted to painkillers have the same experience. Beyond a certain level, opioid dependence actually makes the pain worse. This is simply incorrect when…

Then why do you have an opioid crisis if none of this is a problem?

I didnt deny that addiction exists or that opioids are addictive. That being said, I think the fentanyl crisis and addiction in general is typically a symptom of other complex issues. We are sprinting into a horrific dystopia with intense cost of living pressures. People who can't adapt to that are medicating themselves because there is no other way to cope available to them.

Re: We're moving to a post-entertainment society

#49
I'm a bit disappointed with the author's lack of knowledge around culture. The "slow traditional culture" to "fast traditional culture" to "dopamine culture" is incoherent.

The first example is "Playing sports" to "Watching sports" to "Gambling on Sports". All three of these activities have been around for millennia. Same with the "Courtship / Sexual Freedom / Swiping on a Dating App". Courtship was essentially a mechanism that functions not unlike a modern dating app. I was following until he made these claims.

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