Live data from Hacker News

Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

news.ycombinator.com

41–50 of 76 posts

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#41

I really like the duplicate detection feature; that would save me so much time and prevent pain down the line with product backlog refinement.

Yep, this is one of our most popular features. That's exactly our goal--catch problems like this ahead of time. We're actually also working on other stuff for automatic backlog refinement but not ready yet.

If you get a chance to try, we'd love to hear how the duplicate detection stacks up against your expectations

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#42

I think project mgmt software suffers from the same problem as project managers - they think they should be in charge, visible and front and centre I disagree (esp about the human ones) I want project management that fills itself in based on work people do, not work people tell the tool they have done. I am dubious that putting ticket numbers in commit messages is needed - let alone IRC, emails, phone calls meetings,…

Really appreciate the feedback, doesn't come off grumpy at all. In fact I think it's pretty well in line with our vision. Beyond automated reports, we're just generally focused on saving users time/headache. The conflict between the people doing the project and the project manager is very, very common: the former doesn't want to spend time updating the tool, and the latter wants/needs centralized updates/status. In the future we absolutely plan to solve this better than we do now.

It's super compelling to hear about different pain points like this. The idea of automating acceptance criteria is indeed tough but absolutely possible to imagine. This is outcome-oriented in the best possible way!

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#43
post #37

If you are using different versions of GPT, in particular GPT-4, how are you controlling costs once users' projects/backlogs grow in complexity?

Great question. We're taking an unorthodox approach here.

I don’t know of too many tools that are offering unlimited free calls to OpenAI, which means that all cool LLM-enabled features are price-gated or premium or otherwise limited. It's a bummer to restrict that value. Our bet is that LLM pricing will follow a Moore’s Law-style pattern, at least for a while, that will mean that we can offer better and cheaper LLM-enabled features over time. So in short, we're subsidizing some of the costs now on a longer-term bet.

That said, we can be smart about how we do things technically. We embed, compress, and omit stuff as much as possible to minimize tokens.

Also, we actually just completely fail to handle some things (something like reprioritizing a backlog of 10k tasks just wouldn't work for us right now) so we do hard cap some actions.

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#45
post #43
post #37

If you are using different versions of GPT, in particular GPT-4, how are you controlling costs once users' projects/backlogs grow in complexity?

Great question. We're taking an unorthodox approach here. I don’t know of too many tools that are offering unlimited free calls to OpenAI, which means that all cool LLM-enabled features are price-gated or premium or otherwise limited. It's a bummer to restrict that value. Our bet is that LLM pricing will follow a Moore’s Law-style pattern, at least for a while, that will mean that we can offer better and cheaper LLM-…

Regarding embeddings - I am assuming you are using ada-002 or have you moved on to 3-small already? Do you have a particular strategy for migrating embedding models other than re-embed the whole dataset? And lastly, what is/are your vector store(s) of choice? I am not quite sure of your scale but I have found that north of 50 million vectors a lot of the current options get a bit weak in the knees, especially if you index and query concurrently at high rates.

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#48
Best project management tool, IMO, is the tool that has no projects to manage.

We tried JIRA, Linear, now we are using Github projects. It is too much effort to keep it up to date when things are fast moving. Everything becomes stale.

At first look, it feels like this too will suffer the same.

The best tool in this space should eliminate the need of specialized PM.

PS. Github project has become surprising better in recent times.

Re: Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation

#49
post #45
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great question. We're taking an unorthodox approach here. I don’t know of too many tools that are offering unlimited free calls to OpenAI, which means that all cool LLM-enabled features are price-gated or premium or otherwise limited. It's a bummer to restrict that value. Our bet is that LLM pricing will follow a Moore’s Law-style pattern, at least for a while, that will mean that we can offer better and cheaper LLM-…

Regarding embeddings - I am assuming you are using ada-002 or have you moved on to 3-small already? Do you have a particular strategy for migrating embedding models other than re-embed the whole dataset? And lastly, what is/are your vector store(s) of choice? I am not quite sure of your scale but I have found that north of 50 million vectors a lot of the current options get a bit weak in the knees, especially if you…

- Still on ada-002, planning on migrating later this week actually

- Current plan is to re-embed everything but I'm very open to better ideas there haha. Is there a better way?

- I've heard some similar stuff but we haven't run into it yet. What are you working with?

Post reply on HN