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Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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Kleppmann is one of very few people who not only understands technical topics deeply, but is a great speaker & a writer. Very much looking forward to it. As for local first, I see it as a combination of a few things - moving databases as close to users as possible [0] - writing data without coordination with other nodes - background sync What this buys you is extremely high availability (as you can write without havi…

Thank you! To your point about industrial use, yes – this is interesting. For example, Actyx makes a software system for coordination within a factory floor, and Ditto performs sync between devices of cabin crew on an aircraft. These are nice examples of industrial local-first systems.

Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't query the wisdom of using Discord to celebrate local-first software dev ;)

I know, this has come up a few times. We will have a matrix bridge soon. Do you have any leads for a peer first community software with good adoption? I have a short list that I'm testing but none of them have the features we need: 1) Live video 2) # channels and 3) adoption Even moving off Twitter has been a challenge but I am optimistic about bsky

P2P Matrix (https://arewep2pyet.com) is our answer to peer-first community software, but it's currently on hiatus thanks to funding issues. The best I can propose is normal Matrix - and then when P2P comes along, it'll replicate onto clients as easily as it replicates onto servers today.

Meanwhile, bsky is perfect for twitter replacement, imo,

Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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Kleppmann is one of very few people who not only understands technical topics deeply, but is a great speaker & a writer. Very much looking forward to it. As for local first, I see it as a combination of a few things - moving databases as close to users as possible [0] - writing data without coordination with other nodes - background sync What this buys you is extremely high availability (as you can write without havi…

Thank you! To your point about industrial use, yes – this is interesting. For example, Actyx makes a software system for coordination within a factory floor, and Ditto performs sync between devices of cabin crew on an aircraft. These are nice examples of industrial local-first systems.

Hi Martin! It's Robert from Cambridge (you were my DOS :)). Glad to see your name pop up on HN!

Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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LoFi is a thing already. It's an abbreviation of Low Fidelity.

I saw a rant from someone in the FSF about project names that give you no idea what the software is for or does. This adds another layer to the complaint.

There's probably a social aspect in which the name itself functions as a sort of shibboleth.

Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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" Local-First Web Development" "Join our Discord community and attend the next meetup" Hmm. :-)

TBH Discord as the de facto place for communities to organize online is getting kinda annoying. The Discord apps really don't handle being in lots of such organizations at once, or really make them easy to deal with at all. I wish there was something halfway between Discord and Reddit for things like this.

Re: Martin Kleppmann talk on local-first (LoFi)

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I briefly worked with Martin at my first internship (Rapportive) and he immediately stuck out as someone who goes way above and beyond the typical when thinking through hard technical problems. Haven't heard his name in a while, but I'll definitely check out this talk.
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