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Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by lofties »

happylion0801 wrote: post #37
ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page. I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport cop…

Had the same experience. Contacted support for manual verification, was online the next day with Hetzner. Machine has been running without interruption for a year now.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by formerly_proven »

Propelloni wrote: post #73
formerly_proven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The majority of residential rates (about 40 ct/kWh) are taxes and levies, not the actual price of the electricity. That's why industrial rates can be less than half of residential rates.

You need to compare prices again. Residential electricity costs are significantly below your quoted rate for quite some time now. I've just checked and the lowest rate I saw was 21 ct/kWh. Most vendors are somewhere in the 25 to 30 ct/kWh bracket.

> The average electricity price for households fell by almost 8 percent at the beginning of 2024 compared to the annual average for 2023 and now amounts to an average of 42.22 ct/kWh (2023: 45.73 ct/kWh; base price included pro rata for a consumption of 3,500 kWh/a ).

https://www.bdew.de/service/daten-und-grafiken/bdew-strompre...

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by wongarsu »

cobertos wrote: post #76
wongarsu wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hetzner is not only able to get better volume discounts, they also spend a lot of engineering time bringing down costs, and have decades of experience doing so. They offer some Dell Servers for those that really want them, but most of their servers have a custom mix of consumer hardware, server hardware and in-house hardware (for example they use their own racking system), optimized to minimize lifetime cost in a dat…

Do you have more details on their own racking system? I couldn't find anything on this.

The best resource I know is a tour of one of their data centers. Around minute 6 you get some nice views on their current-gen racks, and later in the video you see the back side, followed by the assembly of the servers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#94

Post by tomschwiha »

hipadev23 wrote: post #81

Just make sure any workloads you place on Hetzner are treated as spot instances and outputs are immediately sent off network. The reliability of their systems and customer support is very low. Hetzner is a 5-star or 1-star company. Are you willing to risk your business on the flip of a coin? My own experience [2] was definitely a 1-star. [1] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hetzner.com [2] https://news.ycombinator.c…

I've been with Hetzner for around 10 years and didn't had a single larger incident so far. Support also answered promptly - didn't had the need to request a lot support so far. Running 2-3 servers and a few cloud instances.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by singhrac »

formerly_proven wrote: post #56
singhrac wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the simplest is that data center energy pricing is just simply different from residential energy, because they often get wholesale (plus small markup) rather than residential rates.

The majority of residential rates (about 40 ct/kWh) are taxes and levies, not the actual price of the electricity. That's why industrial rates can be less than half of residential rates.

I think "taxes and levies" is a bit true, but also you pay for distribution. If your power line goes down in your neighborhood, you basically just grumble but it gets fixed. In wholesale connections you pay for the distribution power line (+ maintenance) basically up front, but it doesn't get put in the final wholesale bill.

This isn't to say your local utility isn't wasteful with its ratepayer money; it totally can be. There isn't enough pressure to lower rates. It's just worth saying that these specific "taxes" do have an intended destination, not just general govt.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by gizmo »

hipadev23 wrote: post #81

Just make sure any workloads you place on Hetzner are treated as spot instances and outputs are immediately sent off network. The reliability of their systems and customer support is very low. Hetzner is a 5-star or 1-star company. Are you willing to risk your business on the flip of a coin? My own experience [2] was definitely a 1-star. [1] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hetzner.com [2] https://news.ycombinator.c…

Reliability and customer support are unbelievably good. 99.995% uptime for the past 10 years. Hetzner will happily customize your servers however you like, and at their low prices you can have hot standbys for everything and still save money.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by callalex »

Propelloni wrote: post #73
formerly_proven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The majority of residential rates (about 40 ct/kWh) are taxes and levies, not the actual price of the electricity. That's why industrial rates can be less than half of residential rates.

You need to compare prices again. Residential electricity costs are significantly below your quoted rate for quite some time now. I've just checked and the lowest rate I saw was 21 ct/kWh. Most vendors are somewhere in the 25 to 30 ct/kWh bracket.

There’s no point in having this discussion, it is extremely specific to different locations.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

lakomen wrote: post #84
happylion0801 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page. I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport cop…

Hetzner is pretty hostile towards foreigners. And don't you dare suggest in their forum that foreign tech is better than German, instaban. Fuck Hetzner

What German tech - AMD, Intel or Nvidia?

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

happylion0801 wrote: post #37
ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page. I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport cop…

Same story from the US. I think they mostly worry that you are trying to avoid paying VAT.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by [deleted] »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #55
Scotrix wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have been in deep contact with data centre and rental server offerings in the past, there is a crazy large amount of fraud going on, e.g. 2 hours for free means 2 hours free resource to DDOS.

I don't want it free. I want to put $2 on the account. Try the server and decide after using the server.

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