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"WebKit Switching to Skia for 2D Graphics Rendering" ... for the GTK and WPE ports. Not on Apple platforms.
Oh. I thought all web browsers were on Skia now. I guess the Apple platform is CoreGraphics and GTK was Cairo? (Edit: Read the article. Yes)
I wish WebKit GTK was more performant in general (and also in the MDN compatibility list but its another topic). It is getting better but it really is a blocker on shipping quality application with Tauri on Linux. There is a reason most apps using native webviews only target macos and windows, WebKit GfK is mostly undocumented for frontend engineers and often very much outdated / not installed on end user machines.
Skia is a great library, but as all things Google it's a pain to build. They don't use CMake and building it from source takes 20-30 minutes on a modern laptop. Furthermore, it's constantly changing its APIs and much of it is undocumented and unclear on how to use optimally. Most of the decisions taken by development team aren't discussed in the open and this makes it hard to understand the codebase. I wish there was…
> I wish there was a nice and small vector graphics library with GPU acceleration. I'm personally skeptical about GPU acceleration being the answer to 2D rendering for various reasons. I'm looking forward to Blend2D https://blend2d.com/ > which is JIT based maturing and being the preferred solution.
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I believe Impeller is even worse with regards to all the issues mentioned in the parent comment. In particular since it is so tight to Flutter.
I get the point about it being developed with one primary objective - but perhaps a naive question here - in the end isn't that primary objective a shared one - to render text, lines, curves and images as fast as possible, via some sort of higher level API? And to do so onto multiple OS & hardware backends?
There’s no free lunch, Impeller has a different set of trade offs that are a better fit for Flutter.
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Can it be GPU accelerated? (Is that even a dumb question to ask?)
Cairo has only limited support for GPU acceleration and hasn't seen much development this decade. So users who care about performance have either switched away from Cairo entirely or are at least reducing its usage and are taking it out of the fast path.
Skia is a great library, but as all things Google it's a pain to build. They don't use CMake and building it from source takes 20-30 minutes on a modern laptop. Furthermore, it's constantly changing its APIs and much of it is undocumented and unclear on how to use optimally. Most of the decisions taken by development team aren't discussed in the open and this makes it hard to understand the codebase. I wish there was…
I have an open source project that uses Skia, and I just keep static libraries for all target platforms because the Skia build process is so painful. Maybe once a year I bite the bullet, do a new Skia build on all the platforms, and then I have to figure out how the C++ API has changed. At least that’s just rote work of fixing compiler errors by looking at the new header files. Even though it’s a pain in the ass, I s…
Skia is a great library, but as all things Google it's a pain to build. They don't use CMake and building it from source takes 20-30 minutes on a modern laptop. Furthermore, it's constantly changing its APIs and much of it is undocumented and unclear on how to use optimally. Most of the decisions taken by development team aren't discussed in the open and this makes it hard to understand the codebase. I wish there was…
We use it in LibreOffice, but its a right pain to update versions and debugging it is.... challenging.
The upside is that the Google Skia team is super friendly and willing to help.
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> I wish there was a nice and small vector graphics library with GPU acceleration. I'm personally skeptical about GPU acceleration being the answer to 2D rendering for various reasons. I'm looking forward to Blend2D https://blend2d.com/ > which is JIT based maturing and being the preferred solution.
What happened to Cairo the 2d graphics tool?
You can see some existing benchmarks here:
- https://blend2d.com/performance.html
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Cairo has only limited support for GPU acceleration and hasn't seen much development this decade. So users who care about performance have either switched away from Cairo entirely or are at least reducing its usage and are taking it out of the fast path.
GPU support was removed from Cairo, because it was slower than CPU rendering and nobody wanted to maintain it.