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Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#31

Post by withinboredom »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #10
ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Ah yes, they are great if you messing about. Not so great if you have crucial business server with them.

I haven't run into a single issue for years, what do you mean by that?

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#32

Post by stefan_ »

Aerroon wrote: post #18
greatNespresso wrote: post #4

Is Nvidia RTX 4000 solid for training? Alternatively this card seems listed for around $1800 so at $180/month on Hetzner, it may be even cheaper to buy it, depending on the expected usage.

Why does this GPU cost so much? It seems to be like an RTX 3060 Ti/3070 with more VRAM and less power draw. Does that really justify the price tag?

Datacenter customers don't have options, gamers do.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#33

Post by schroeding »

aborsy wrote: post #23

The price of a brand new Dell precision PC with a core i9 13900 CPU (24 cores), 64 GB RAM and 2X2TB NVMe is probably around 2.5k$. It costs tens of Euros per month in electricity to run this PC. The hardware is good to go for some 3 years, before running into various issues (newer CPUs becoming much more power efficient, firmware updates getting less and less frequent etc). Consider also the cost of components failur…

If you pay European (German) energy prices, this very well may be the case, in my experience.

For some Hetzner servers (especially from their "Server Auctions"), for domestic customers the cost of electricity alone, disregarding the hardware cost, would sometimes be higher than the rent Hetzner wants.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#34

Post by pmontra »

petercooper wrote: post #29
Aerroon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does this GPU cost so much? It seems to be like an RTX 3060 Ti/3070 with more VRAM and less power draw. Does that really justify the price tag?

NVIDIA's licensing. Note that the 3060/3070 is a "GeForce" whereas a 4000 is a "Quadro". Then look at the GeForce driver EULA: https://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownloads/licence.php?l... > No Datacenter Deployment. The SOFTWARE is not licensed for datacenter deployment, except that blockchain processing in a datacenter is permitted. I could never figure out why they allowed blockchain processing, given how wastef…

Because they made a lot of money selling to miners at prices that maybe they couldn't ask to gamers?

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#35

Post by elric »

aborsy wrote: post #23

The price of a brand new Dell precision PC with a core i9 13900 CPU (24 cores), 64 GB RAM and 2X2TB NVMe is probably around 2.5k$. It costs tens of Euros per month in electricity to run this PC. The hardware is good to go for some 3 years, before running into various issues (newer CPUs becoming much more power efficient, firmware updates getting less and less frequent etc). Consider also the cost of components failur…

They build their own servers using some custom components. Economies of scale probably don't really factor into the pricing of their GPU stuff (unless I'm seriously underestimating their GPU customer base), but they do factor into the peripheral stuff like PSUs, fans, hard drives, etc.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#36

Post by elric »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #10
ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Ah yes, they are great if you messing about. Not so great if you have crucial business server with them.

Care to elaborate on that?

I've been using their services for some 20 years at various scales, and the only complaints I've had are that their shared mailservers occasionally get blacklisted.

That, and the UI of their KonsoleH could do with a bit of a refresh.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#37

Post by happylion0801 »

ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page.

I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport copy page without me having an account.

Oh well, seems like either they have an overly aggressive spam filter that gets false positives or they don’t really like accepting signups from Asia

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

#38

Post by jsheard »

elric wrote: post #35
aborsy wrote: post #23

The price of a brand new Dell precision PC with a core i9 13900 CPU (24 cores), 64 GB RAM and 2X2TB NVMe is probably around 2.5k$. It costs tens of Euros per month in electricity to run this PC. The hardware is good to go for some 3 years, before running into various issues (newer CPUs becoming much more power efficient, firmware updates getting less and less frequent etc). Consider also the cost of components failur…

They build their own servers using some custom components. Economies of scale probably don't really factor into the pricing of their GPU stuff (unless I'm seriously underestimating their GPU customer base), but they do factor into the peripheral stuff like PSUs, fans, hard drives, etc.

There's some videos out there showing off their custom motherboards, it's an odd mixture of standard-ish consumer ATX but stripped down to the absolute bare essentials and with some components rearranged for better airflow in racks chassis they also build themselves: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V2P8mjWRqpk

Another video showing the custom racks and other infrastructure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

bluedino wrote: post #20
Ayesh wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's with ample RAM and the latest Intel CPU. Assuming the whole thing draws 100W, that's also including 72kWh of electricity.

I'm not sure what the exact 'rule' is here, but you wouldn't use a contraction in this sentence. It is, with ample RAM and the latest CPU.

From https://www.yourdictionary.com/articles/contractions-correct... -

Contractions can be used in any position in a sentence; however, homophone contractions such as "it's" and "they're" sound better when followed by another word or phrase. The reason is that the sounds of "its" and "it's" and "they're" and "their" are so similar that they can be confusing unless they are used with the context of an additional word.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by pmontra »

ecmascript wrote: post #2

Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…

Which server do you have on Hetzner that I missed? Dedicated servers start at 37.30 Euro per month now there, the AX-41 couch is pretty good and has no setup fee. On the other side I'm paying OVH about 12 Euro per month for two small VPSes and they are even too much for me, performance wise.
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