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Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by yurishimo »

solardev wrote: post #51
ejj28 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GCloud and the Razer Edge are both significantly more expensive than the PS Portal if I recall correctly though. The Abxylute does seem similar in price, although I'm guessing the PS Portal likely has better controls (being essentially a Dualsense split in half) and maybe a better screen. Also yeah, Steam Link would work too but Moonlight/Sunshine generally seems to work better.

I see. Yeah, $200 seems like a great price point for that device and build quality. Too bad it's locked to PS games! Just Sony being Sony, sigh.

It doesn't even play games though; it streams them from your console over wifi.

Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by anonymousab »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #57

Its a cool hack but I dont' see why anyone would go through the trouble when you can do the same with a steam deck (no hacking required) there's also the neo which will come out https://neo.manjaro.org/ all the same benefits and without having to play this cat and mouse game with a company who just wants to turn you into a stream of income.

Maybe they just like the specific form factor or Sony controller more than the steam deck's.

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Post by ErneX »

solardev wrote: post #51
ejj28 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GCloud and the Razer Edge are both significantly more expensive than the PS Portal if I recall correctly though. The Abxylute does seem similar in price, although I'm guessing the PS Portal likely has better controls (being essentially a Dualsense split in half) and maybe a better screen. Also yeah, Steam Link would work too but Moonlight/Sunshine generally seems to work better.

I see. Yeah, $200 seems like a great price point for that device and build quality. Too bad it's locked to PS games! Just Sony being Sony, sigh.

It’s a streaming device to play the games from your PS5 remotely.

Just an accessory.

Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by alias_neo »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #46
doubled112 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did enjoy this cat and mouse game when I got my first PSP. That was quite a few years ago.

That wasn't so much a cat and mouse game, rather a bunch of hackers playing keep away with Sony's hat. The PSP's security was "defeated" literally from day one since the v1 firmware launched unsigned executables, then after that there was exploit after exploit, then the whole pandora battery thing and finally the host keys got leaked and it was game over. I bought my PSP at launch and it spent the vast majority of it…

PSP was the golden age for me.

I started university the year it launched in the UK but I already had a Japanese import PSP1000 I'd bought the year before.

Studying CSEE a few friends and I were all over the hacking and homebrew and wrote a few apps/tools ourselves.

We spent all of the boring lectures gaming on our PSPs, modifying them, dumping and swapping games etc.

Later we got Compaq iPaQs and modified those, installed Linux etc and dreamed of a Linux phone, then came the first iPhone, I imported one of those the year before it released here (UK) and everyone who saw it in the EE department were amazed.

Then of course came Android, the dream came true. Fast forward over a decade and Google has well and truly put a bolt through the head of that dream.

It was a different time in my life, but I definitely feel it's (tech/gadgets) all a lot less interesting these days.

Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by xp84 »

RajT88 wrote: post #13
jsheard wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're selling it at cost or at a loss (I don't know if they are) as a value-add to the PS5 then they wouldn't want people buying it just to play emulators.

Notably they still sell retro games on PSN. As long as retro sales exceed the cost to lock the device down you will see stuff like this. I recall one time paying for FF7 which I played on PS3/PSP. That game alone probably makes it worth it.

I’d modify that to “as long as the IP owner wishes retro sales exceeded the cost to lock the device down.” After all, lots of games are completely unpublished today, making $0 in sales, but they’re just as zealous about stopping you from accessing or playing those ones too.

Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by hnlmorg »

jimmyl02 wrote: post #4
hnlmorg wrote: post #2

The moment the hack is public Sony will release an update to block it. And so the game of cat and mouse continues.

this will always be true of jailbreaks as they fundamentally break the security of the device. this means that it can be used for cool things like shown in the article but it could also be used maliciously by an attacker to completely take over the device which the manufacturer should definitely patch.

these exploits are never closed for the security of their users, though the changelogs might often claim that’s the case.

It’s always about licensing costs for the manufacturer. Every game or application released for consoles (and phones alike) have to pay a licensing fee to the maintainers of that platform to publish on that platform. If you can jailbreak the device then you can publish software to that device without paying Sony, Apple or whoever else.

The security aspect is just a convenient side effect from locking people in. But if it was only security that these manufacturers were concerned about then they’d have found a way to allow people to tinker with their hardware without needing to crack any security mechanisms in the first place.

You can see this concern for licensing being a big thing in consoles as early as the Gameboy and MegaDrive (Genesis). And back then security wasn’t even a concern.

Re: Sony's Playstation Portal hacked, can now emulate PSP games

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Post by radiKal07 »

ejj28 wrote: post #20

If running a moonlight client on one becomes possible, I might be actually interested in buying one, just for casual gaming at home. The Steam Deck looks great but is pretty expensive and a little overkill when I could just stream from my desktop to a less powerful device.

Just get an Odin 2: https://www.ayntec.com/collections/odin/products/odin-2
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