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Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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bitwize wrote: post #11
chj wrote: post #3

> I know several world class programmers, and interestingly, the commonality among them is that they all seem to use Vim as their code editor. Many people I know who think of themselves as world class programmers use Emacs. Curious who and who?

I've known many world-class programmers who use Emacs, among them Kalman Reti and Steve Summit. Most of the diehard Vim users I encountered were kind of in the DUVASWUV camp (DHH Uses Vim And So We Use Vim), i.e., they came to it as part of the whole Rails memeplex. That said, vi(m) and Emacs used to share the throne as the canonical Unix wizard editors because they were nearly ubiquitously available, consistent in U…

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Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by shubhamjain »

I don't understand what the author bases his claim on. Pulsar is based on Electron, so it isn't going to be faster than VS Code. And taking a quick look, it's way behind VS Code in terms of features. It doesn't even have a built-in terminal.

If you want to use anything other than VS Code as an editor, why not pick something based on native technologies? What's the point of picking an editor that takes 6-8 seconds to start and still is way behind VS Code in terms of development?

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by porphyra »

logicprog wrote: post #39
notnmeyer wrote: post #9

> I know several world class programmers, and interestingly, the commonality among them is that they all seem to use Vim as their code editor. Many people I know who think of themselves as world class programmers use Emacs. haha, shots fired!

Considering how confidently utterly wrong the author of this article seems to be about Vim and to an even more substantial degree Emacs, I'm not inclined to put much stock in this as an insight.

I think it was just a bad joke rather than an insight. As a neovim user myself, I personally know a couple of extremely oustanding programmers who use emacs.

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by linuxftw »

GalaxyNova wrote: post #33
antiframe wrote: post #31

> While both of these [Emacs and vim] can probably compete with Pulsar in number of extensions available and the amount of customizations and keyboard shortcuts, neither of them have a graphical user interface, and they are completely incapable of doing things like showing images or, for example, a Markdown preview (which by the way you can open in Pulsar by pressing Ctrl+Shift+M). Claiming that Emacs has limited cus…

Also nowadays there's a few GUI frontends for Neovim such as Neovide.

Eh, not really. Last I tried these, the mouse was able to move the cursor, and that was about it.

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by antiframe »

gkhartman wrote: post #36
doctor_eval wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right? The greats all used ed.

Nah, programmers of that caliber will use a magnetized needle directly on the hard disk platters.

I see where you're going with this, so let's just shortcut ourselves to the end: the Emacs command `M-x butterfly`.

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by magnetowasright »

wk_end wrote: post #12

The question this leaves unanswered is: why not VS Code? I don't know if MS built VS Code deliberately to compete with Atom, and I don't know if they bought GH to kill Atom. But once they had Atom in their hands, it only made sense to kill off Atom - they're extremely similar. They're both: (1) free Electron-based text editors that (2) are highly extendable in JS, are (3) powerful enough to use as IDEs, but (4) more…

I used Atom until it was killed. I have tried many times over the last few years to switch to VSCode (for some of the benefits you mentioned) but there's never been a way to configure a few things that are non-negotiable for me. I have really spent way too much time trying to get it set up how I want but it's just not possible from what I can find. I also strongly dislike some of the general approaches to UI/UX and to updates in general.

I should probably just get over it and use vim or emacs because they're probably better suited. I use sublime text now. I didn't switch to Pulsar because I wanted something a bit more established or organised for my work computer.

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by doix »

This article can be summarized as "I use Pulsar because that's what I'm used too" combined with incorrect "facts" about other editors and some shit slinging at them.

Nothing they describe about Pulsar is unique at all, apart from the slow loading time I guess. If you wanted time to load up HN while your editor loads, maybe Pulsar is right for you!

Everything they describe there is fairly basic functionality that is available in pretty much every popular(and niche) editor at this point. The "How to code 10x faster than an average programmer" article linked also describes basic things; hot reloading and real time linting.

Use whatever editor you want, write about whatever editor you want, but at least do some research about other editors before confidently stating your favorite one is the best along with incorrect facts about others.

This reminds me of the blub paradox[0] except for editors instead of programming languages.

[0] https://paulgraham.com/avg.html

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by copperx »

bitwize wrote: post #11
chj wrote: post #3

> I know several world class programmers, and interestingly, the commonality among them is that they all seem to use Vim as their code editor. Many people I know who think of themselves as world class programmers use Emacs. Curious who and who?

I've known many world-class programmers who use Emacs, among them Kalman Reti and Steve Summit. Most of the diehard Vim users I encountered were kind of in the DUVASWUV camp (DHH Uses Vim And So We Use Vim), i.e., they came to it as part of the whole Rails memeplex. That said, vi(m) and Emacs used to share the throne as the canonical Unix wizard editors because they were nearly ubiquitously available, consistent in U…

Vim? I remember DHH was the premier TextMate evangelist. All his videos were TextMate only.

Re: Pulsar, the best code editor since Atom

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Post by weikju »

v3ss0n wrote: post #30
weikju wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe I'm missing something and Atom/Pulsar have some killer features that VS Code doesn't and won't ever have. For one, it's not controlled by Microsoft which has its own plans and designs (lock you into GitHub, their proprietary extensions, telemetry, AI, etc)

We have vscodium

Which is still just downstream from VSCode and suffers as a result (eg Remote stuff not available officially for example).

PS I do use VScodium, and am glad it's there as an alternative and a developing ecosystem of extensions.. I still always feel the shadow of MS when using it. Kindof like using Chromium as opposed to Chrome.

Second edit: I mainly use another editor but sometimes VSCode things are nice so VSCodium is there for me

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