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Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by jsheard »

coretx wrote: post #30
jsheard wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo (or rather Nvidia) was behind the curve on fault injection counter-measures, Sony and Microsoft did their homework and it's never been achieved on their last two generations of systems as far as I know. Microsoft openly talked about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VwtOrwceo Seriously, console security is getting really good. The Switch had some major hardware blunders between the bootloader bug an…

"console security is getting really good." - It's not nor will it ever be. There is no point in investing extra millions for let's say anti electron microscope measures for example. Developers aim for secure enough and don't care much about a single nerd who cracked his individual system using exotic specialists tools more valuable than the console and the entire game collection combined. It's more lucrative to just…

I would class making it uneconomical to hack a console for any practical purpose as "really good security". Could someone with nation-state resources hack the Xbox? Maybe? But who cares, they're not going to.

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by coretx »

graphe wrote: post #24
jsheard wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo (or rather Nvidia) was behind the curve on fault injection counter-measures, Sony and Microsoft did their homework and it's never been achieved on their last two generations of systems as far as I know. Microsoft openly talked about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VwtOrwceo Seriously, console security is getting really good. The Switch had some major hardware blunders between the bootloader bug an…

Xbone has no hacks. It has dev mode, no exclusives both which killed hacking and piracy.

The PS3 had "OtherOS" for lucrative import/export levies. Saving a dime on removing it post sales and export/import is what lead to hacking & piracy.

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by harry8 »

estiaan wrote: post #28
p1necone wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been plenty of amazing and culturally relevant games recently, you just have rose tinted glasses for the time you grew up in (or you haven't been gaming much). I'll just list a handful of really well known ones. * Basically everything FromSoft has put out (With Dark Souls 1 and Elden Ring probably being the most important - Dark Souls effectively kicked off an entire genre because of it's popularity (technica…

To be fair many of the games on this list would be trivial to preserve as long as windows remains backwards compatible with older software, and not too hard even after that. Breath of the wild and Tarkov stands out as exceptions

linux & proton?

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by dadrian »

This is awesome. I remember back in 2006 I bought every copy of MechAssault that my local Game Stop had and hoped that one was the correct revision such that it was compatible with the Krayzie Ndure softmod exploit, and used it to install Xbox Media Center (XBMC). It's from that setup that I learned how computer networking works. I credit basically my entire career with reading about softmods at the back of a Popular Science magazine.

Anyway, it's awesome that you'll eventually be able to softmod an Xbox without a specific game once the mods are integrated with this exploit. Good work!

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by harry8 »

Aside: og xbox is not so expensive 2nd hand and a great way to set up a kids lan party. 1 old router, 3 xboxes, 3 tvs, 12 controllers, Halo gets you 10 year-olds' mayhem. Noisy fun. Arguably easier if xboxes are modded.

MotoGP, crash team racing, powerdrome, crimson skies all work great https://www.teamxlink.co.uk/wiki/Supported_Games then sort by both total players and players per console descending

Is this single location lan something that has been lost since those days?

Any better ways to set up a temporary lan party for kids?

[1] https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005142269614.htm

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by kaashif »

ShamelessC wrote: post #29
codetrotter wrote: post #19

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OTOH, has there really been any actually culturally significant video games released in recent years? I enjoyed for example the Uncharted games a lot. But I don’t think anything significant will have been lost if future generations of people don’t get to play the Uncharted games, no matter how much I enjoyed them myself. Whereas, things like Pong, and Pac-Man and the first Super Mario games and the Pokémon Red and Bl…

How recent are we talking about? Did you miss Breath of the Wild? Super Mario Odyssey? The Last of Us 2? Red Dead Redemption 2? Hollow Knight? Elden Ring? Half Life Alyx? Hell, Pokemon Go qualifies for cultural recognition.

> Hell, Pokemon Go

I think Pokémon Go was a much more visible and impactful phenomenon (in certain places) than anything else on your list. This might be different to "cultural importance" depending on your definition.

I mean did random churches and libraries have "Playing Red Dead Redemption 2 is not allowed here" signs up?

Were there flash mobs in NYC playing Half Life Alyx?

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by mikepurvis »

estiaan wrote: post #28
p1necone wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been plenty of amazing and culturally relevant games recently, you just have rose tinted glasses for the time you grew up in (or you haven't been gaming much). I'll just list a handful of really well known ones. * Basically everything FromSoft has put out (With Dark Souls 1 and Elden Ring probably being the most important - Dark Souls effectively kicked off an entire genre because of it's popularity (technica…

To be fair many of the games on this list would be trivial to preserve as long as windows remains backwards compatible with older software, and not too hard even after that. Breath of the wild and Tarkov stands out as exceptions

Until recently I would have said Spider-Man and God of War 2016 though both are now released on Windows as well.

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by Lammy »

codetrotter wrote: post #19
rusk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it saddens me as a vintage games conservator that my present day PS4 will be a brick in a few years. When I have consoles and games going back 40 years. It just doesn’t seem right.

OTOH, has there really been any actually culturally significant video games released in recent years? I enjoyed for example the Uncharted games a lot. But I don’t think anything significant will have been lost if future generations of people don’t get to play the Uncharted games, no matter how much I enjoyed them myself. Whereas, things like Pong, and Pac-Man and the first Super Mario games and the Pokémon Red and Bl…

The problem is that the lockout and anti-privacy tech developed for consoles tends to metastasize over to general-purpose computers, like with signed executables, gatekeeper, secure boot, etc. People would oppose development of it otherwise, like they did for the Clipper Chip and the original Palladium proposal. Having an appliance where software """needs""" to be """protected""" from the machine's owner allows that stuff to fly under the radar until it's already bulletproof.

Re: Endgame: A dashboard exploit for the original Xbox

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Post by yellowapple »

codetrotter wrote: post #19
rusk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it saddens me as a vintage games conservator that my present day PS4 will be a brick in a few years. When I have consoles and games going back 40 years. It just doesn’t seem right.

OTOH, has there really been any actually culturally significant video games released in recent years? I enjoyed for example the Uncharted games a lot. But I don’t think anything significant will have been lost if future generations of people don’t get to play the Uncharted games, no matter how much I enjoyed them myself. Whereas, things like Pong, and Pac-Man and the first Super Mario games and the Pokémon Red and Bl…

> OTOH, has there really been any actually culturally significant video games released in recent years?

Fortnite certainly seems to be, for better or worse.

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