"and illegally" is strangely missing from the title
God knows what dystopian regulations/powers they created for themselves.
Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
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The article you've posted is engaging in mental gymnastics and misrepresentation that I've never considered possible. To sum up the facts: - PiS got into power several years ago - PiS fired all the journalists of public broadcasters and replaced them with staff they selected. Major private media corporations in poland were already closely aligned with PiS, and independent media was shut down. - As a result, for sever…
> that's not something that happens in a working democracy.
PiS winning their second term would also be a product of a working democracy. Their certain continuation of their power grab would be a contradiction to your statement.
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
#231 Over 7000 licenses for Pegasus alone. Both opposition and own party surveilled. 2 Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel. All Government secrets and potential kompromat transferred to foreign power.
>Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel Wait, seriously? Any sources on that? I find it hard to believe that any government would spend $$$ on a security tool that doesn't allow on-prem installation and instead beams all your surveillance to another country.
You have a lot to catch up on, then.
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
#24Fuck NSO Group.
The NSO is only supplying a product for which there is insatiable demand from every government. If they wouldn't build them, someone else will.
They're kind of like arms manufacturers. Do you blame them if your government shoots you?
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
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The article you've posted is engaging in mental gymnastics and misrepresentation that I've never considered possible. To sum up the facts: - PiS got into power several years ago - PiS fired all the journalists of public broadcasters and replaced them with staff they selected. Major private media corporations in poland were already closely aligned with PiS, and independent media was shut down. - As a result, for sever…
> Major private media corporations in poland were already closely aligned with PiS [...]
This statement is an outright lie. For example, Gazeta Wyborcza, all of Agora Media, and TVN have always been anti-PiS.
>[...] and independent media was shut down.
Can you elaborate on this?
> As a result, for several years all media in poland was pro-government.
Completely untrue.
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
#26Fuck NSO Group.
The NSO is only supplying a product for which there is insatiable demand from every government. If they wouldn't build them, someone else will. They're kind of like arms manufacturers. Do you blame them if your government shoots you?
> They're kind of like arms manufacturers.
More like hired hitmen.
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
#271 Over 7000 licenses for Pegasus alone. Both opposition and own party surveilled. 2 Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel. All Government secrets and potential kompromat transferred to foreign power.
>Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel Wait, seriously? Any sources on that? I find it hard to believe that any government would spend $$$ on a security tool that doesn't allow on-prem installation and instead beams all your surveillance to another country.
I’m curious about this statement too, seems there’s evidence that they don’t and the customer is the data handler: https://www.edps.europa.eu/system/files_en?file=2023-01/0221... top of page 4.
I guess this is all according to NSO claims. I’d like to see evidence otherwise!
Re: Poland’s PM says previous government illegally used Pegasus spyware
#281 Over 7000 licenses for Pegasus alone. Both opposition and own party surveilled. 2 Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel. All Government secrets and potential kompromat transferred to foreign power.
>Usage of Pegasus means all intercepts are on the servers in Israel Wait, seriously? Any sources on that? I find it hard to believe that any government would spend $$$ on a security tool that doesn't allow on-prem installation and instead beams all your surveillance to another country.
S(pyware)aaS
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#30Fuck NSO Group.
The NSO is only supplying a product for which there is insatiable demand from every government. If they wouldn't build them, someone else will. They're kind of like arms manufacturers. Do you blame them if your government shoots you?
If the arms manufacturer explicitly works with unethical and illegal uses of clients as main sales target, yes.