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Sora could ruin peoples lives

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Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#11
they’re not wrong, ai will eliminate the lower end of many creative professions… and unfortunately a lot of the lower end comes from poorer countries

it’s probably a net gain in the long run, but it’s going to cause a lot of damage in the process

Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#13
> You’re forgetting that 100 years ago photographers and filmmakers ended the careers of most of the illustrators, story tellers and theater companies of their time. And everybody adjusted, and storytelling and image making exploded, entering a golden age. There are still amazing portrait painters and theater companies today, but they are specialized art forms and most people have moved on. Today’s photography and filmmaking are going to undergo a similar evolution. And as an avid photographer, I can’t wait.

It's really hard not to agree with the response above.

Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#14

Very good discussion there. “I am 68 years old, on the opposite spectrum of life’s journey. At your age, I had the same passion to be a writer. But when personal computers became available just a few years later, that passion changed to becoming a computer programmer. I’ve been doing that ever since. My point is: Don’t lose your passion. Learn everything you can about this new technology and figure out how to use it…

If I were at the opposite spectrum of life's journey, I would be open to life's changes too, knowing that I didn't have much of it left.

But I'm in my 30s, which means on average I have another 40-50 years of existence to get through.

Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#16
post #5

IMHO the advancements in technology related with industries in which the end product is digital (movies, animation, texts, programs, etc.,) instead of fundamental spatial services like automation of food productions, cleaning, garbage collection, house building, etc., is a direct consequence of physical space being a luxury around the world, with housing and renting prices skyrocketing. The Garage Culture is a privil…

To be clear, there is plenty of space for humans on earth right now. I'm not talking about in uninhabitable places, I mean in amazing fertile locations. Real world space is a luxury because of bad regulation in places with good governments and other places having bad governments

(you didn't imply otherwise, but I know there's a common misconception that space is running out and the world is overcrowded. It's largely not true)

Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#18
post #2

Well I thought it was gonna be about the hostile deep-fakes but it's about career threat for creatives. I do wish the robots were doing more mundane or labour intensive tasks and leave the art to humans.

What’s the difference. All tasks are mundane and labor intensive, all tasks can be done by artificial beings.

We happen to be in a weird little valley right now where some tasks are still impossible for artificial beings to do better than us. This is a very short term aberration.

If we are still here in a couple generations, when artificial beings have surpassed our output in every way that matters, then we’ll have a choice to make about what we produce for fun. Not because we’re better at it or because it is profitable, just because we want to.

Writing stories, making music, making movies, plumbing, carpentry… the only humans who do these things will be the humans who feel like it.

Re: Sora could ruin peoples lives

#20
I actually don't agree with the idea that it's going to displace creative work. I'm a little worried that people running the finances of firms producing creative will try to displace people, but I don't think this stuff is actually going to displace high quality art. A well curated set of marketing material from openai isn't going to change my opinion on that. If you make something that's of high quality, regardless of how productive you were during the creation, people will seek that quality out. I don't think I've ever heard people be excited about a particular AI artist, just about the models. To me this kind of signals that the market for AI generated work is much smaller than people realize. And if you have to modify the output to actually break through, congratulations you're now an artist.

I don't like using these tools in my own work and I hope tech companies are somehow held accountable for using everyone's data without permission, but I'm actually pretty optimistic that this won't displace that many professional artists once the money people get a handle on how the attention economy actually responds to this stuff. I'm a lot more worried about people using this stuff to create propaganda, to frame people for crimes, or to create non-consentual porn of people.

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