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How many people use them on Android? Nobody around me... The Add to home prompt is "that thing you always click no or you get ads".
More than you think really. I have some apps on my devices that are clearly webviews, which is apparent when they crap out.
It's incredibly convenient for Apple that there's overlap between safety features and anti-competive behaviors. Every time somebody says "I don't want vendor lock-in", they flip it to "Oh, so you don't want safety?" But these are often false dichotomies created by Apple. Reviewing and rejecting apps for fraud and malware is great, but Apple bundled that with rejecting apps for using the word "Android" and whatever ot…
Sometimes you need safety from the vendors. Linux is the only OS that doesn't use dark patterns to make me create a cloud account.
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> The DMA requires free interoperability, and Apple has imposed a very anti-competitive fee. From comments I read, quite a few people want it to require free interoperability, but I don’t see how it does. I even think it sort-of explicitly allows gatekeepers to keep charging for access. The pre-amble, point 62 starts with “For software application stores, online search engines and online social networking services li…
> it only talks about access to SDKs, specs of device ports, ability to make the same system calls The Apple App store uses SDKs + system calls to install other apps, right? So, if you're allowed to sideload your own app store it should be able to do the same freely. So, the question then becomes about sideloading which I think you're supposed to be able to do freely as well.
More importantly, you can argue about the interpretation of that text, but in the end, it will be how the EU interprets it, and I don’t think there’s any way they ever intended it to mean “the DMA requires free interoperability”, or that they will in the future decide that to be the case.
Of course, future legislation may say different things, but that won’t make the statement true.
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People don't care because Apple has made sure they don't care. They have crippled web app adoption for years to push the app store and now argue that "well, only a few people use that anyways". How many apps in the app store are just webviews? I myself have paid apple to publish webview wrappers around pages because they strictly raise users to expect these, instead of the web apps they have no control over (and cann…
How many people use them on Android? Nobody around me... The Add to home prompt is "that thing you always click no or you get ads".
It's like roasting Toyota for taking out a manual handbrake. Sure it sucks, but come on, do you really think the average Toyota owner cares their Prius has an electric e-Brake?
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Apple is a shitty company that makes very good products and has very good marketing (which has basically ensorcelled a lot of people to reduce their judgment)
I always thought so too, but I would say that they are merely relatively good products. Although I don't like the UI, the UX, and the cost, I always thought that Apple products are objectively good, i.e. they are stable. However, I've recently learned from others that that's not/no longer the case.
He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…
As much as I would love to agree, the general population really does not care about features like "home screen web apps". Nobody outside of HN even knows what they are. Everyone just goes on the app store and downloads random website app. Even if it is just a browser app that renders a website. Apple would have to eliminate something that people actually care about for any boycott Apple to happen.
Some of them think they care because they fell for apple's manipulations but they'll get over it.
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I always thought so too, but I would say that they are merely relatively good products. Although I don't like the UI, the UX, and the cost, I always thought that Apple products are objectively good, i.e. they are stable. However, I've recently learned from others that that's not/no longer the case.
I think Apple hardware is excellent. Anti-consumer, but excellent. Their software is a mixed bag and I'm not impressed with the majority of it.
Does Apple think its shenanigans are going to precipitate a backlash against EU regulation? Because every time I read about a new round of BS my blood boils and my attitude against Apple and other huge anticompetitive corporates just hardens.
> my blood boils Why? You have the option to avoid Apple completely and not have them interfere in your life what so ever, and it's an easy choice. Just don't buy their products. Your blood should boil for things that you can not easily avoid in life. You're wasting your passion on completely meaningless things. In the end, it's just phones and computers.
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I think Apple hardware is excellent. Anti-consumer, but excellent. Their software is a mixed bag and I'm not impressed with the majority of it.
There is a guy on YouTube, who repairs Apple devices (or laptops?), and who shows, that not even their hardware is actually good. In one specific case they built in a part, that again and again in previous models failed, in the same function. Sent in laptops for repairs with the defect did not get a better part, but instead sloppily soldered on old parts as a replacement. If I find the link withib edit allowed time,…
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That's because... everything was made from de beginning to push people to go to the App Store.
The App Store didn’t even exist until the iPhone 3G. Everything was suppose to be a web app until everyone, including HN, bitched about the lack of native apps. Now here you all are 15 years later bemoaning what you have helped create.