Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
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Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#2He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone.
I think this will backfire on them. Downgrading their own feature offerings to spite the competition is only going to fuel more animosity by everyone: users, businesses, developers, and legislators. I feel quite firmly that their proposal to comply with the Digital Markets Act is non-compliant. The DMA requires free interoperability, and Apple has imposed a very anti-competitive fee. Once this is eliminated, developers will be free to distribute whatever native apps they wish, and at this stage there are a lot of developers who will jump to any other app store.
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#3There must be people sitting at Apple HQ whose task it is to come up with ways to screw their customers. I love it.
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#4He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…
I’ve always been vocal against web apps and pro native apps.
Actions like this and also the direction Apple is taking with SwiftUI actually makes me interested in web apps again.
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#5He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…
So you mean that Apple is not doing things for the Greater Good and is actually a company that tend to build gold prisons around their customers to prevent to get as much money they can from them ?
Nahhh, I don't buy that.
- Sent from my iPhone
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#6He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…
Just to make a supporting argument to this...
I introduced my son to neal.fun this morning and he asked "can you make this easier for me to get to?" and I was like, "sure, there's some way to pin it to the home screen."
I know this feature exists and I've even written code to support this feature ... yet I spent nearly 5 minutes looking for the button. Hiding it in the share sheet is downright stupid.
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#7There must be people sitting at Apple HQ whose task it is to come up with ways to screw their customers. I love it.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Tim?
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#8It always leaves a sour taste hearing him say that. While he is undoubtedly 100% right, we all know he's not saying it because he cares about a free market. He only cares because it's eating up his share of the profit. Why can't we have other people at the forefront of this than billionaires?
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#9There must be people sitting at Apple HQ whose task it is to come up with ways to screw their customers. I love it.
It's a prestigious job, after they invented the green bubble they've seen metoric rise in the fruit.
Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney
#10Sounds like Apple is building this (in time) and simply putting out pithy statements so the ilk of Tim and his "omg, why don't you let us have you built for free crowd!!11!!111!!1!!" can all pile on and reveal their hand.