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Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#31

> they popped up the keyboard and typed “We are in control” This reads like bad hacking fiction, complete with the guy typing that wearing a Guy Fawkes mask. Why the hell would the (hypothetical) attacker lose precious time doing something like that.

Because its fun?

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#32
I don't know what the catalyst for this was, but a lot of 20 years olds and younger seem to use the word hacked so casually.

I read it all the time, "my insta was hacked", etc.

I would really like to know if hacking is as common as it is reported rather than a successful phishing campaign, a simple issue of forgotten password or getting locked out of email, account ban for rule violation, or something else entirely unrelated to actual hacking.

In this case my skepticism skyrocketed when the hackers write "we are in control".

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#33
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This is so hard to believe that I simply don't. Either the user had a bad digitizer, and misread and/or hallucinated the "We are in control" message, or the entire story is made up. Perhaps a group of people working together to post "Hey me too!" stories? I'm not sure what the motive would be, though. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and this is beyond believability.

I wonder how such hack would even work. The watch does have the option to control it remotely, through the iPhone accessibility options, but obviously this only works with the paired iPhone and not over the internet.

> but obviously this only works with the paired iPhone and not over the internet.

That's the intended design, but perhaps the trusted device layer could be bypassed under some circumstance? It seems extremely unlikely, but maybe not impossible.

edit: The more I read and think about this, the less I think it's likely. I'll keep this as a devil's advocate sort of message, but I feel like I should still point out that the entire premise here seems a little nuts and the people reporting the hacks are more likely to be uninformed/paranoid/etc and dealing with ghost touches than the watches were likely to be compromised.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#34
First of all, why would anyone even care about you enough to want to steal whatever health data is available? Is there any particularly sensitive personal info stored there?

Second, presumably if one gains access to the device through a sophisticated hack they'd probably also be able to exfiltrate data without having to alert the user.

With all of that being said, I wish there was some sort of black box mechanism for logging certain events in such a way that the device itself can't tamper with it. That way you'd have a log that can be easily analyzed to judge whether or not a hack is likely to have taken place. Right now if you open the syslog on an Apple device it's filled with so much crap that it's basically impossible to detect if anything nefarious was likely to be happening.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#35
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post #14

TLDR: Their watch digitizer got messed up. Likely submerged it in water and it was all over. Case closed.

I was with you until "Likely submerged it in water and it was all over". Flagship phones and watches have been waterproof for many years now. I use my iphone and my apple watch in both the pool and the shower regularly with no issues

My Apple Watch 3 was suppose to be safe to swim in. But it did mess up after going swimming in it a few times.

Admittedly, this was last year and the watch was already 4 years old.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#36

This is so hard to believe that I simply don't. Either the user had a bad digitizer, and misread and/or hallucinated the "We are in control" message, or the entire story is made up. Perhaps a group of people working together to post "Hey me too!" stories? I'm not sure what the motive would be, though. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and this is beyond believability.

> I'm not sure what the motive would be, though.

To make Apple Watch antivirus scams?

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#37

I wonder why most of the comments take it very casually and say may be issue with digitizer/ghost touch. Had it been any other OEM, this would have been such a big issue with anecdotes of why people trust apple products.

Exactly. This comment section really is a display of the Apple bias on HN.

I don't doubt that this might be nothing, but seeing all these commenters completely dismissing it is rather odd.

Hopefully Apple is less dismissive of this potential security issue.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#38

I don't know what the catalyst for this was, but a lot of 20 years olds and younger seem to use the word hacked so casually. I read it all the time, "my insta was hacked", etc. I would really like to know if hacking is as common as it is reported rather than a successful phishing campaign, a simple issue of forgotten password or getting locked out of email, account ban for rule violation, or something else entirely u…

Hack in popular tongue has always meant authentication breaches in general, the method is not important. It's been this way for as long as internet has been a household word.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hacked

#39
There’s a feature to use your iPhone to do keyboard input on an Apple Watch. Could it be that? Don’t tell me Apple left out some authentication. I know you can do something similar with text input when you’re on the same network as an Apple TV and someone’s inputting text. It’ll prompt on your iPhone to submit keyboard input.
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