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Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by samstave »

awakeasleep wrote: post #18
samstave wrote: post #17

This is going to sound strange at first, but hear me out: Facebook, if it wanted to be really disruptive, should buy evernote. The reason is that FB only offer superficial utility - the social utility layer of being able to track your friends lives and comment on them will atrophy over the next ten years. FB will need a way to really bring together the daily activities, information, interests etc of its userbase and…

As a man wholly dependent on Evernote, I hope to God they aren't bought by Facebook. I shudder to think how much insight that'd give them on my life.

DISCLAIMER: I no way was I actually condoning this idea. But if FB had deeper vision, they would already be looking at this.

I was shining light on a dark spot in what I feel is missing in FBs roadmap.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by tbatchelli »

dkokelley wrote: post #8

I've always loved Evernote IN THEORY. It makes sense to organize your notes through technology, to attach an 'external brain', if you will. Still, I've never been able to really use Evernote the way they intend. I'll throw up a few notes, only to drift away, leaving the notes alone. There's no organization that I've been able to achieve with the platform. Maybe it's just a threshold of initial effort that I haven't c…

I feel the same way. Evernote is extraordinary in terms of document acquisition, but you're alone once you have to work with it. There is no sane way to keep things organized, other than folders. Saved searches are a joke too. Document editing is really poor. For example, you can't highlight any document, scanned or not (that's on OSX). So I think they got the funnel part right and now they need to work on the processing and editing part. Hopefully the purchase of Penultimate goes in this direction.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by k-mcgrady »

awakeasleep wrote: post #18
samstave wrote: post #17

This is going to sound strange at first, but hear me out: Facebook, if it wanted to be really disruptive, should buy evernote. The reason is that FB only offer superficial utility - the social utility layer of being able to track your friends lives and comment on them will atrophy over the next ten years. FB will need a way to really bring together the daily activities, information, interests etc of its userbase and…

As a man wholly dependent on Evernote, I hope to God they aren't bought by Facebook. I shudder to think how much insight that'd give them on my life.

From everything I've read about Evernote and the CEO I think it would be very difficult to get him to sell. Facebook can obviously offer a lot of money (money that most people wouldn't say no to) but I think Evernote is in it for the long haul.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by dunham »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #10
dkokelley wrote: post #8

I've always loved Evernote IN THEORY. It makes sense to organize your notes through technology, to attach an 'external brain', if you will. Still, I've never been able to really use Evernote the way they intend. I'll throw up a few notes, only to drift away, leaving the notes alone. There's no organization that I've been able to achieve with the platform. Maybe it's just a threshold of initial effort that I haven't c…

I found it takes some investment before it really becomes useful. I didn't get it at the start but now being able to search through notes and clippings I made years ago is really helpful. They have also made great improvements in notebook organisation which I love. I find it a bit unsettling that I'm storing so much data with one company (not that I don't trust them but that at some point they might go away) but they…

On the mac, all of your data is in "~/Library/Application Support/Evernote/accounts".

You'll find xhtml files and images in there, one directory per note. (Additionally there is a clucene index, some ocr info, and "enml" versions of notes.)

Back it up, and you'll have a safety net for your notes.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by ams6110 »

GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #9
dkokelley wrote: post #8

I've always loved Evernote IN THEORY. It makes sense to organize your notes through technology, to attach an 'external brain', if you will. Still, I've never been able to really use Evernote the way they intend. I'll throw up a few notes, only to drift away, leaving the notes alone. There's no organization that I've been able to achieve with the platform. Maybe it's just a threshold of initial effort that I haven't c…

I didn't get Evernote for the longest time but then it made way more sense to me when I bought a tiny double sided scanner and started scanning and shredding all my paper, bills, documents. Then I started forwarding all emails with attachments to my Evernote account. Then I started sharing my folders with my wife and using the mobile app. Now it's the central hub for all my information. Since it's all OCR'd I find an…

Wow I wonder how many are this organized/anal about tracking stuff. My bills sit in a pile on the table until the first of the month, I pay them, and throw them in a box, never to be seen again.

What value is there in scanning your electric bill and archiving it digitally? When have you EVER needed to refer to something like that after it's been paid. For me, never.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by murrayb »

Nice to see that Penultimate is going to come to "other devices", I'm assuming that will include Android.

I moved all my bookmarks to Evernote after the new owners broke^wenhanced delicio.us and haven't regretted it once.

All I need now is a native Linux client for Evernote...

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by therealarmen »

ams6110 wrote: post #25
GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't get Evernote for the longest time but then it made way more sense to me when I bought a tiny double sided scanner and started scanning and shredding all my paper, bills, documents. Then I started forwarding all emails with attachments to my Evernote account. Then I started sharing my folders with my wife and using the mobile app. Now it's the central hub for all my information. Since it's all OCR'd I find an…

Wow I wonder how many are this organized/anal about tracking stuff. My bills sit in a pile on the table until the first of the month, I pay them, and throw them in a box, never to be seen again. What value is there in scanning your electric bill and archiving it digitally? When have you EVER needed to refer to something like that after it's been paid. For me, never.

When I'm doing my taxes.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by GiraffeNecktie »

samstave wrote: post #16
GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't get Evernote for the longest time but then it made way more sense to me when I bought a tiny double sided scanner and started scanning and shredding all my paper, bills, documents. Then I started forwarding all emails with attachments to my Evernote account. Then I started sharing my folders with my wife and using the mobile app. Now it's the central hub for all my information. Since it's all OCR'd I find an…

Does it allow me to keep a budget and track expenses/info/receipts against that budget?

Unfortunately no. I use Mint for tracking income and expenses (at least the ones I pay with cards or online) but it doesn't integrate the receipts.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by GiraffeNecktie »

ams6110 wrote: post #25
GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't get Evernote for the longest time but then it made way more sense to me when I bought a tiny double sided scanner and started scanning and shredding all my paper, bills, documents. Then I started forwarding all emails with attachments to my Evernote account. Then I started sharing my folders with my wife and using the mobile app. Now it's the central hub for all my information. Since it's all OCR'd I find an…

Wow I wonder how many are this organized/anal about tracking stuff. My bills sit in a pile on the table until the first of the month, I pay them, and throw them in a box, never to be seen again. What value is there in scanning your electric bill and archiving it digitally? When have you EVER needed to refer to something like that after it's been paid. For me, never.

I found it surprisingly satisfying to get rid of paper completely. As a self-employed person, I need to keep most receipts including house expenses (for my home office). It's a lot easier to just scan everything as it comes in as opposed to thinking about whether it's worth saving, putting it in a box or file folder, then sometime later think about whether or not it's time to dispose of it. And you never know, maybe some day my grandchildren will be amazed to learn how cheap it was for grandpa to heat his house back in the early 21st century.

Re: Evernote acquires iPad app Penultimate

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Post by k-mcgrady »

dunham wrote: post #24
k-mcgrady wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it takes some investment before it really becomes useful. I didn't get it at the start but now being able to search through notes and clippings I made years ago is really helpful. They have also made great improvements in notebook organisation which I love. I find it a bit unsettling that I'm storing so much data with one company (not that I don't trust them but that at some point they might go away) but they…

On the mac, all of your data is in "~/Library/Application Support/Evernote/accounts". You'll find xhtml files and images in there, one directory per note. (Additionally there is a clucene index, some ocr info, and "enml" versions of notes.) Back it up, and you'll have a safety net for your notes.

Didn't know that, thanks!
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