We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

Post by satvikpendem » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 4:17 PM UTC

8organicbits wrote: post #74

noodlesUK wrote: post #50

I tried out the editor because of this post: it looks very promising. Unfortunately I can't use it because it doesn't have support for remote hosts/devcontiners. That feature of VScode is critical to my workflow, as I don't actually want to program on a Mac host, but rather use my Mac as a portal to the VMs and containers I actually code on. It massively helps with segmentation of my projects and improves my security…

I use development virtual machines to segment projects and clients also although I just run my editor in each VM. What's the benefit of the vscode remote hosts/dev containers over a normal remote session?

Post by satvikpendem » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

giancarlostoro wrote: post #56

torlok wrote: post #10

Had a look at the About page, and the live coding feature does sound useful. I'm sure the guys are excited; it's a fun project. You get to write algorithms, optimise performance, and do GPU programming. But who needs another text editor that will probably never reach feature parity with Vim and a terminal multiplexer.

In my opinion I wish more editors would become a face to Neovim which can run in a headless mode, allowing you to not have to emulate VIM at all, but take full advantage of it and all its plugins. It still kills me JetBrians chooses to maintain what VIM users call an awful plugin that simulates VIM, when they could just implement a Neovim front-end natively into their IDE, giving them the edge of "we fully support Ne…

Post by ncruces » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 4:21 PM UTC

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #47

smarkov wrote: post #29

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This might be one of those things like monitor refresh rate where you can only really tell the difference if you've experienced the better version for a while, but I haven't ever felt slowed down by the speed of VS Code.

it is actually faster and snappier to use on a beefy M2 max, on the same hardware zed starts up in half the time. the difference is very noticeable. of course it is much less configurable and doesn't work with a lot of things VS Code can do easily. edit: see this comment for a much better explanation than mine of what I originally meant https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39409763

Post by satvikpendem » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 4:24 PM UTC

dewey wrote: post #61

bihla wrote: post #52

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For our team, VS Code is reaching that point. The Macbooks can’t keep up with VS Code’s decay. Unfortunately Zed lacks good defaults (like a way to change tabs without the mouse) and certain vs code features like snippets. Makes it difficult to transition a team which has been dependent on Vscode and which has absolutely no interest in spending our days configuring tools

Are you running a lot of extensions or giant file sizes or how are the computers not keeping up with VS Code?

Post by satvikpendem » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 4:24 PM UTC

raphinou wrote: post #58

giancarlostoro wrote: post #55

There was an editor I forgot the name might of been Omnivim, which was coded in ReasonML, but compiled natively to a UI, and supported VS Code plugins, which is still wild to me. Anyway, development kind of died off on it, it had insane potential in my eyes. Hopefully Zed can achieve a similar feat (more likely targetting VS Code plugins?) or some other rich plugin ecosystem.

It was onivim2. Iirc it was a one-man show, and stopped when funding dried up. I also hoped to see a a lot from it. Maybe the dev took too much work on his plate, with an unproven language with limited libraries? https://github.com/onivim/oni2