We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed • Hacker News Board

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by diggan » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:13 PM UTC

2809 wrote: post #11

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Yeah, who needs more editors after ed already solved this problem? Good thing problems usually get solved once and then you can never improve on top of that, then I'd have to switch editor like once every decade or something.

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by ivancho » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #18

egze wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually prefer Mac only apps. It usually means the experience is way more polished.

Unless you don’t own a Mac.

Even more so then. Simplify, simplify, simplify!

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by MR4D » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:18 PM UTC

Fantastic interview where you really get into the mind and mindset of the developers for how they approach development from many different angles. Highly recommended.

I only have one disagreement with them. . .

> the perfect name for a text editor in Zig is already taken: Zed

No, it’s “Zag”. ;)

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by cjk » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:18 PM UTC

I only wish they’d realized it was time to start over before unleashing the cancer that is Electron upon the world.

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by littlestymaar » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:18 PM UTC

ivancho wrote: post #22

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you don’t own a Mac.

Even more so then. Simplify, simplify, simplify!

Mac-only apps come with additional security benefits on Windows and Linux too: there's no safer software than the software you cannot run.

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by timeon » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:19 PM UTC

v3ss0n wrote: post #13

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

zed is actually very fast though

Only works on Mac Big no no

For now.

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by pm » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:19 PM UTC

instagary wrote: post #9

I tried Zed, and it felt similar to VSCode. I know there are multiplayer features that are better than live share, but on the surface, I needed convincing to switch. I would be more inclined to use Zed if it could displace XCode. It pains me to use it from deleting derived data or cleaning the build folder to random crashes. Contrasting the DX to Android Studio, it's night and day. I always wanted an Android studio-l…

Xcode and Android Studio have plenty of warts. What is it about Android Studio's experience that you find lacking in Xcode?

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:20 PM UTC

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Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by smarkov » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:20 PM UTC

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #12

torlok wrote: post #10

Had a look at the About page, and the live coding feature does sound useful. I'm sure the guys are excited; it's a fun project. You get to write algorithms, optimise performance, and do GPU programming. But who needs another text editor that will probably never reach feature parity with Vim and a terminal multiplexer.

zed is actually very fast though

This might be one of those things like monitor refresh rate where you can only really tell the difference if you've experienced the better version for a while, but I haven't ever felt slowed down by the speed of VS Code.

Re: We Have to Start Over: From Atom to Zed

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Post by taminka » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:22 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #8

SIMD I wonder if Zed uses SIMD, to read in text from a file or write out text to the display. Mitchell recently wrote about how he got a massive reduction in latency, by implementing SIMD in his terminal app (which is analogist to an editor) https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-devlog-006 https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/111919642467789362

despite what the article claims, clang and gcc are acc very good at vectorising code, and intel, arm, etc have entire teams dedicated to improving vectorisation in modern compilers