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Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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Re: Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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You can be addicted to mostly anything; ‘healthy’ (veg, sports etc) and unhealthy. I have seen many people ‘grow out of it’ which meant they replaced one addiction by another (or more than one), but the new ones are acceptable in society so now you are not an addict anymore (…). For instance, I know more than a few ex harddrug addicts who are now addicted to gaming, work, sports, alcohol (also a hard drug but somehow accepted and cheap), sex etc.

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You can be addicted to mostly anything; ‘healthy’ (veg, sports etc) and unhealthy. I have seen many people ‘grow out of it’ which meant they replaced one addiction by another (or more than one), but the new ones are acceptable in society so now you are not an addict anymore (…). For instance, I know more than a few ex harddrug addicts who are now addicted to gaming, work, sports, alcohol (also a hard drug but somehow…

I would say almost everything is acceptable once you understand the balance and how it impacts you if you do/over do it.

I agree there are a lot of normalised addictions, including the modern trend of counting every step, heart rate beat, times you go in the bathroom and even sleep analysis so you can compare to your friends.

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You can be addicted to mostly anything; ‘healthy’ (veg, sports etc) and unhealthy. I have seen many people ‘grow out of it’ which meant they replaced one addiction by another (or more than one), but the new ones are acceptable in society so now you are not an addict anymore (…). For instance, I know more than a few ex harddrug addicts who are now addicted to gaming, work, sports, alcohol (also a hard drug but somehow…

I would say almost everything is acceptable once you understand the balance and how it impacts you if you do/over do it. I agree there are a lot of normalised addictions, including the modern trend of counting every step, heart rate beat, times you go in the bathroom and even sleep analysis so you can compare to your friends.

Can you show us a single example of someone who destroyed their life because they couldn't stop counting their steps?

No? So maybe don't call it an "addiction" if you want words to have any meaning.

Re: Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say almost everything is acceptable once you understand the balance and how it impacts you if you do/over do it. I agree there are a lot of normalised addictions, including the modern trend of counting every step, heart rate beat, times you go in the bathroom and even sleep analysis so you can compare to your friends.

Can you show us a single example of someone who destroyed their life because they couldn't stop counting their steps? No? So maybe don't call it an "addiction" if you want words to have any meaning.

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Re: Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say almost everything is acceptable once you understand the balance and how it impacts you if you do/over do it. I agree there are a lot of normalised addictions, including the modern trend of counting every step, heart rate beat, times you go in the bathroom and even sleep analysis so you can compare to your friends.

Can you show us a single example of someone who destroyed their life because they couldn't stop counting their steps? No? So maybe don't call it an "addiction" if you want words to have any meaning.

Addictions do not have to be life destroying. Plenty of people are addicted to various things but are fully functional and live fulfilled lives.

It’s a bit unfair to ask whether OP wants words to have any meaning when it seems you’re a bit fuzzy on the definition of “addiction” yourself.

Re: Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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This is why harm reduction is absolutely crucial. A lot of people will recover on their own given time, but you can't recover if you're dead. A moralistic model based primarily or solely on abstinence-based recovery fails addicts, their families and society.

Re: Most people with addiction simply grow out of it (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say almost everything is acceptable once you understand the balance and how it impacts you if you do/over do it. I agree there are a lot of normalised addictions, including the modern trend of counting every step, heart rate beat, times you go in the bathroom and even sleep analysis so you can compare to your friends.

Can you show us a single example of someone who destroyed their life because they couldn't stop counting their steps? No? So maybe don't call it an "addiction" if you want words to have any meaning.

Counting your steps is unlikely to destroy your life, but a lot of people do suffer serious harms due to behaviours like compulsive exercise and orthorexia. Obsessive-compulsive behaviour around exercise often overlaps with anorexia nervosa, which has the highest risk of mortality of any mental disorder (~5% at 10 years). There is a surprisingly fine line between compulsive health tracking and a life-threatening eating disorder.
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