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Post by skydhash »

eloisius wrote: post #207
lolinder wrote: post #200

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There might be an inflection point like what you describe. It's also entirely possible that this is an evolutionary dead end like the voice interfaces that were the Next Big Thing a few years ago. We've grown so accustomed to viewing technology as a steady progression of improvements that it seems natural that the thing that Apple is pushing today will be universal in 10 years, but there's no guarantee of that, and t…

My thoughts exactly. There are almost no things I do on a daily basis where I want to go through a cognitively expensive process of changing modes into an immersive experience. Even getting my laptop out and opening it and logging in feels like too much for a lot of things, and I’m glad that I can use my phone to tap out a short email while half paying attention to my lunch, commuting, etc sometimes. Maybe when they…

I keep hoping for an expanse experience. Where computing is truly connected (standards and fast wireless transfers). Apple ecosystem is moving towards this but they are so closed it feels more like autobus than bicycle for the mind. Linux is still not an option on the phone form factor. And the hardware are still very opaque.

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Post by charcircuit »

anonzzzies wrote: post #236
zyklonix wrote: post #35

Any idea how the author was able to have multiple desktop screens? What app is he using for this? I thought it only allowed you to mirror one screen per Mac and from my experience it is quite laggy.

This is the problem(with Apple); this device, like iOS devices, is fenced off, so you cannot run vscode etc if you don’t connect a MacBook. For this device it’s actually worse than an iPad to disallow that: it’s 4x as expensive as a MacBook Air here but I cannot run most apps I want on it while that would make me buy one today. I don’t want another iPad (which I bought because it’s nice and small and great battery, b…

>is fenced off, so you cannot run vscode

No, the only reason you can't run vscode is that no one has put in the effort to port it. It's a problem of financial incentives and not a problem of "fences."

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #214
babyshake wrote: post #184

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There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.

Having something strapped to your face, that you have to put on and take off, is never going to be a substitute for working in open space unhindered.

Why's that? They can get the weight down to barely more than glasses, and with good pass through video and battery improvements... You'll be pretty unencumbered. Certainly not more encumbered than being glued to your laptop on a desk.

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Post by talldatethrow »

jb1991 wrote: post #237
sensanaty wrote: post #225

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It's always crazy reading those kinda comments. He keeps maligning the product that he had to pay a premium for, comparing it to equivalent products that are cheaper and perform the same, yet he's still going to make his next purchase another, by his own admission, overpriced Apple product. It's mind blowing, I don't wanna reach for the low-hanging quips here but it really is like an Apple iCult type of vibe

Why “he”?

My friend sold boats for over 10 years. He said women love going on boats, but he never saw a woman buy a boat in his life.

Women love apple products, but if you look at who is splurging on multiple high end apple computers with multiple monitors it's gotta be 95% male.

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Post by nox101 »

karim79 wrote: post #138
ngokevin wrote: post #95

When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…

> More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. I can't speak for the Apple Vision Pro, I'd love to try one, to be honest. But I can agree with your comment. Such has been my experience with the two headsets I own - the Meta Quest 2, which I think is really great and serves many purposes, and the PSVR 2 headset, which is phenomenal for gaming, but pretty much useless for anything else. B…

For me, VR comes down to content. Because the market is too small, there is none. There's few high end titles. HL:Alyx, Horizon: Call of the Mountain? Sometimes you get a port but then it wasn't originally designed for VR and it usually shows.

There's zero on the Quest 2/3 because it's a mobile device and it's not up to it and at least in my experience the link is not up to it either.

I'm not saying there are not some good experiences there. Several rhythm games are fun, a couple of games designed for low-power mobile devices. But the fully immersive high quality graphics games are so few an far between. If there were more I'd keep playing.

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #222
steve1977 wrote: post #205

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if putting on the Vision Pro is as fast and seamless as grabbing a tablet or opening up your laptop I guess.

when it's a pair of sunglasses with the Facial Studio Code already opened to your project, in other words.

Too bad "Visual" is already taken.. maybe Vision Studio Code.

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Post by shaunkoh »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #209
dijit wrote: post #147

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I love this comment, I think you're completely right. What I love most about this comment is how it caused me to reflect on what I use daily and get some amount of joy from. When it comes to Apple products in particular I use an Apple Studio display at home, I use it for 10hours per day, every day, and honestly I have no complaints, it's probably one of the best bits of technology I use daily. However, it's completel…

Yeah, I agree. I rolled my eyes when I bought the Studio Display because of the price (I got the VESA option so I also had to factor in $200 for an Ergotron LX just so I could use it the way I’d want) and I’m annoyed by its lack of power button, its garbage web camera, and the really that it has no better picture quality than the v2 LG UltraFine 5K it was replacing, despite costing $300 more, but if it broke tomorrow…

Why no nano-texture?

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Post by baby »

I tried it and it hurt my face like hell in 10min. It’s uber heavy. I had a Quest 1 and would use it for hours without any issues.

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #244
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #214

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Having something strapped to your face, that you have to put on and take off, is never going to be a substitute for working in open space unhindered.

Why's that? They can get the weight down to barely more than glasses, and with good pass through video and battery improvements... You'll be pretty unencumbered. Certainly not more encumbered than being glued to your laptop on a desk.

Well it's hard to debate fantasy products given the circularity: "if they create a product that avoids all these problems, then it won't be a problem!".

I've not used a laptop (or computer) at a desk for decades, I prefer lying down, which works really well.

I do wish there was something between a laptop and a phone though. Interfaces need to improve or innovate, but I don't think VR headsets are the answer. I haven't even touched on the nausea.

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