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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by deely3 »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #555
deely3 wrote: post #498

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Not sure about downvotes, but Navalny was definitely against bringing back Crimea to Ukraine. In his own words: "Crimea is not a pastry to pass from hands to hands". After it becomes clear that "3 day" invasion of Ukraine is unsuccessful he changed his mind. But only after it, not before.

The last one is pure fantasy. He made a statement on the first day of the war and was strongly against it from the start. https://zona.media/online/2022/02/24/pokrov4

And where this statement in this article? Are you lying? He against the war sure, but show me where he mentioned returning Crimea to Ukraine.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by docmars »

docmars wrote: post #441
cglace wrote: post #144

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The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

Is it truly supporting Ukraine though? All of that money is being laundered back to the U.S. war machine, yet it's somehow losing this "war"? Mitch McConnell admitted that himself just recently. Meanwhile, Kiev is in pristine condition while Gaza is a now a wasteland. None of this makes sense.

Here is my source, for what it's worth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZnizA0N8wg

The downvotes won't erase the truth, so nice try I guess?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by docmars »

suoduandao3 wrote: post #272
cglace wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

Spending a lot is not a badge of honor in an asymmetric conflict. If the US was spending more efficiently than Russia the way it did in Afghanistan, this would be sending a message to the next Putin that invading one's neighbors is a losing proposition. The US's economy suffering more than Russia's sends the opposite message.

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by Paradigma11 »

cbg0 wrote: post #218
KingOfCoders wrote: post #128

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As soon as the Ukraine war comes to a standstill, Russia will start riots in the Baltics to create a land connection to Kaliningrad.

How exactly will Russia start "riots" in NATO countries?

There are significant Russian minorities left in the baltic states from the SU.

Russia will support and radicalize those.

If the Baltics dont react it will lead to unrest and Russia is forced to intervene and "protect" their fellow Russians.

If the states react this will be seen as suppressing the Russian minorities and Russia will be forced to intervene and "protect" their fellow Russians.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by caekislove »

tekla wrote: post #427
lm28469 wrote: post #180

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> can't even win a few km's in Ukraine. And the US couldn't win against a few thousand goat farmers with Ak47s, or maybe there this is a bit more complex...

As it turns out, glassing an entire country is politically unpopular.

Unless you're Israel

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by pimlottc »

orbital-decay wrote: post #436
aerique wrote: post #385

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I never understood why he went back to Russia.

Certainly nobody wants to be a martyr. I guess he thought he had a chance at peaceful politics, and at the time it could have been seen as reasonable by a poor planner like him. He had a history of weird blunders, like refusing to resort to violence when it became the only possible solution, or failing the publicly planned protest simply because he didn't account for being detained under a bullshit pretext for a few…

> Certainly nobody wants to be a martyr.

Some people do. If you believe the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and you truly believe your death will significantly help others, then maybe you do make that (incredibly hard) decision knowing full well the consequences.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by avodonosov »

danielovichdk wrote: post #499
kulikalov wrote: post #378

There are smart people who work for Russia, or worse - for russian gov. Without them it would not be possible. How can an individual have both the critical thinking and still have the gut to contribute to this? I grew up in rural russia. It's much much worse than what you see on the facade. My neighbour was a police man. His 15 years boy raped a kid from local orphanage and captured it on a video. No justice followed…

Russia’s murder rate is one of the highest in the world, up there with Jamaica’s. Eighty-three percent of murderers and more than 60 percent of murder victims were slobbering drunk during the deed. A typical drunken murder story goes something like this: Two middle-aged male friends meet, go back to A’s apartment, and pound four or five bottles of cheap vodka over a two-day binge. A passes out drunk; B stumbles away,…

Sources?

In the following wikipedia article Russia's murder rate is near the world's avearage, close to the US, and 8 times lower than Jamaika. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti...

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