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The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I can’t play any of the media, perhaps JavaScript isn’t that bad?

That is odd. It works on Edge and Firefox for me. They also give you the links to download each one to play it local.

I use chromium on linux without proprietary codecs. There have been many times where videos didn't play for me, but these all worked.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

#14
post #12

Ok, as a long-time emacs user (I think I started in 1985), I am officially nerdsniped. Building the sdl2 version, there is no luck finding libSDL2_ttf, so I'll be trying the ncurses version. Looks pretty snappy so far.

Same. The live demo at the end was very effective at spiking more interest, as well.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

#15

Completely off topic but this website is how it should be done. No JavaScript enabled and I can play the videos and see the text and images. Well done.

Just don't read it on a mobile device.

Firefox on android for me.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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post #5

Completely off topic but this website is how it should be done. No JavaScript enabled and I can play the videos and see the text and images. Well done.

Well I can’t play any of the media, perhaps JavaScript isn’t that bad?

Sounds like a Safari/Apple issue, not a lack-of-javascript issue.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I can’t play any of the media, perhaps JavaScript isn’t that bad?

Sounds like a Safari/Apple issue, not a lack-of-javascript issue.

Yup. I’ve downloaded the Webm file and iOS doesn’t know what to do with it, which is odd, since Apple allegedly added support for Webm in iOS 15. I’m on iOS 17.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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Two projects that may be of interest, related to this topic: - Rune ( https://github.com/CeleritasCelery/rune ) - A re-implementation of Emacs but in Rust (like Remacs, but actively developed) - Pimacs ( https://github.com/federicotdn/pimacs ) - Same, but using Go (created by me, but developed in a very slow pace)

Rune, the language, came before. So we have now 2 rune projects, the language and the emacs vm

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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It's weird to be building an Emacs clone nowadays. It's fairly clear that Vim and Emacs _both_ lost the editor wars, and VSCode has come out on top. That's not to say either Vim or Emacs are dead or will disappear, but building a clone of a niche editor is risking dooming the project to being a niche within a niche.

If it's just because hacking is fun, then by all means have a blast. But if the goal is to compete with Emacs, consider instead setting the target at something with far greater popularity than Emacs.

Re: The Emacsen family, the design of an Emacs and the importance of Lisp (2023)

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post #19

It's weird to be building an Emacs clone nowadays. It's fairly clear that Vim and Emacs _both_ lost the editor wars, and VSCode has come out on top. That's not to say either Vim or Emacs are dead or will disappear, but building a clone of a niche editor is risking dooming the project to being a niche within a niche. If it's just because hacking is fun, then by all means have a blast. But if the goal is to compete wit…

I'm pretty sure I read this exact comment 10 years ago, but "Sublime Text" instead of "VSCode".
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