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Can you give an example of what you consider a good solution in a different language? That will help us see exactly what you're looking for and how/whether it might be achieved in Python.
Erlang and Elixir. :)
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Erlang and Elixir. :)
Well RabbitMQ is built in Erlang so there you go :)
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Well RabbitMQ is built in Erlang so there you go :)
But RabbitMQ is just a messaging bus, isn't it? That doesn't handle the processes (operating system processes or virtual processes) actually processing the messages and those processes handling fault-tolerance for the things they're connected to.
Apologies for changing the subject, but aside from real world experience (which I have and am getting at work), is there a resource of similar quality for more intermediate/advanced Python programmers? I always feel like there's a big chunk of the language or stdlib I do not know.
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Use asyncio. Bind to a socket, set blocking False, then asyncio.run(on_new_connection(sock)). Inside that coroutine get the loop and await loop.sock_accept(sock) And then asyncio.create_task(on_connection_data(connection)). The only gotcha is you need to keep a reference to that task so it doesn't get garbage collected.
Get garbage collected by what? Doesn’t Python use reference counting?
Consider organizing the code using TaskGroup.
What is a good book for learning Python when you already now some/many other languages?
Apologies for changing the subject, but aside from real world experience (which I have and am getting at work), is there a resource of similar quality for more intermediate/advanced Python programmers? I always feel like there's a big chunk of the language or stdlib I do not know.
Also just reading Norvig’s annual Advent of Code implementations usually provides some insight on how to write elegant and concise Python code.
Apologies for changing the subject, but aside from real world experience (which I have and am getting at work), is there a resource of similar quality for more intermediate/advanced Python programmers? I always feel like there's a big chunk of the language or stdlib I do not know.
https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html
https://docs.python.org/3/library/index.html
Whenever a new version is released, I read its What's New documentation.
Beyond that, I like to read source code, both for the stdlib and popular third-party packages. This advice generally applies when I'm learning any new language or re-familiarizing myself with one, not just Python.
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But RabbitMQ is just a messaging bus, isn't it? That doesn't handle the processes (operating system processes or virtual processes) actually processing the messages and those processes handling fault-tolerance for the things they're connected to.
That is correct. Honestly I’m not sure this is a good use case for Python but it’s definitely possible. I’ve used the RabbitMQ + gevent + multiprocessing pattern in the past and it works but I find the code extremely hard to reason about. If I were doing it again from scratch I’d probably choose another language with better concurrency primitives.
It definitely isn't, but this is a new role with a rushed timeline in a place dominated by Python.
> and it works but I find the code extremely hard to reason about
This is also a major concern of mine.