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I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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In addition to opposing CISPA on moral grounds, do you think that Facebook's attitude towards similar issues and their willingness to compromise user privacy will have a negative financial impact? That is, will enough users turn away from Facebook because of a fear and poor user experience to cause the company to lose money?

Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like investing in Apple after learning about the death's of other mp3-player-companies?

You really think that is a good comparison? I am not an Apple user, but Apple nowhere in my mind competes with MP3 player makers. It is a vast tech company with massive investments in designing and manufacturing of MP3 players to Laptops, phones and developing a host of really large software. That is not Facebook, it sells nothing other than the network, much like MySpace used to. If yours friends drop off Facebook,…

> It is a vast tech company with massive investments in designing and manufacturing of MP3 players to Laptops, phones and developing a host of really large software.

It is now, but the iPod is a good portion of what made all that possible.

Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like investing in Apple after learning about the death's of other mp3-player-companies?

You really think that is a good comparison? I am not an Apple user, but Apple nowhere in my mind competes with MP3 player makers. It is a vast tech company with massive investments in designing and manufacturing of MP3 players to Laptops, phones and developing a host of really large software. That is not Facebook, it sells nothing other than the network, much like MySpace used to. If yours friends drop off Facebook,…

If yours friends drop off Facebook, you will drop off too. That is not same for Apple. Apple users will continue using the products even if their friends do not. Its a personal device.

This works both ways. I use Facebook because my friends are there. I use Apple products because I like the products. Switching social networks is has a high friction point - all my friends need to move. Switching phones is my own choice and easy to do.

Look how much easier it is for Google to gain half the smart phone market compared to how (relatively when compared to Facebook) unsuccessful they've been at getting "social network" market share. I think a very good argument can be made that Facebook's position is more defensible then Apples.

Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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CISPA? What about the Facebook Terms of Service? They include the following words:

We may also share information when we have a good faith belief it is necessary to: detect, prevent and address fraud and other illegal activity; to protect ourselves and you from violations of our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities; and to prevent death or imminent bodily harm.

This is a broader privacy exemption than CISPA offers; CISPA (in its final amended state) actually goes through some effort to define and narrow the scope of what it's "protecting" and what "illegal" activity it governs. Unlike the Facebook ToS, CISPA explicitly excludes mere "violation of consumer licenses" from its scope.

Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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Great job, though I wish it was made clear that CISPA, etc and Facebooks willingness to participate threatens FB as a business.

How does CISPA threaten Facebook as a business? If CISPA did threaten Facebook, why did they publicly support it?

Re: I appeared on CNN this morning to talk about why I'm not buying Facebook (CISPA)

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post #9

For those of us at work with mute permanently turned on of necessity, a quick summary?

- He's not planning on buying FB stock because of their support for bills like CISPA.

- Investors might not like Zuckerberg's "builder culture"

- He wouldn't be surprised to see more acquisitions by FB

- We need more programmers

- When he sold Reddit to privately-held Conde he knew who he had to satisfy, unlike Zuckerberg and his investors.

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