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Do People Like Medium?

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Re: Do People Like Medium?

#11

I like medium. When I see a link to medium on hacker news or ddg, etc, I know right away that it's low quality garbage and I should skip over it. They're like a big smelly dump, that helps to keep the rest of the internet clean.

Why is this on us (I'm Medium's CEO)? We have control over our own recommendations, and they have gotten a lot better. But people seem to take the worst articles, post them over here, and the people here upvote them. That seems like a problem with HN.

Re: Do People Like Medium?

#14

I like medium. When I see a link to medium on hacker news or ddg, etc, I know right away that it's low quality garbage and I should skip over it. They're like a big smelly dump, that helps to keep the rest of the internet clean.

Why is this on us (I'm Medium's CEO)? We have control over our own recommendations, and they have gotten a lot better. But people seem to take the worst articles, post them over here, and the people here upvote them. That seems like a problem with HN.

Hi Tony,

I think the problem with medium is that there are a lot of low-quality no use for anything articles on the platform. May be you can do some sort of moderation to ensure good articles are present, not sure if it’s against your policies.

Also, another reason which annoys me is the signin to read the article. Why do I have to sign in to read an article everytime? I think this trend overtime created a reflux such that every time I see a medium link, I do not click it.

Loved the platform earlier, I hope you turn it around!

Re: Do People Like Medium?

#15
I used to like it a decent amount, back when the quality of the average article was at least decent and the paywall wasn't a thing unless you explicitly enabled it.

Now though? It's a goddamn trainwreck, with an obnoxious UI filled with modals and that irritating paywall (which you need to leave enabled to make use of most of the article promotion features) and low quality content galore. Indeed, something like 90% of the content there now seems to be hustle culture/growth hacking/self help bullshit or other such vapid junk.

But I guess that's the way of every platform. It starts out with interesting, intelligently written content, then eventually gets buried under the flood of auto generated, SEO focused hustle junk.

Re: Do People Like Medium?

#16

I like medium. When I see a link to medium on hacker news or ddg, etc, I know right away that it's low quality garbage and I should skip over it. They're like a big smelly dump, that helps to keep the rest of the internet clean.

Why is this on us (I'm Medium's CEO)? We have control over our own recommendations, and they have gotten a lot better. But people seem to take the worst articles, post them over here, and the people here upvote them. That seems like a problem with HN.

I think this comment could have been phrased a bit better. People on HN already have a terrible impression of Medium and this comment only serves to worsen that impression, regardless of your intentions. And saying that your recommendations have gotten a lot better is not very reassuring, qualitative feedback doesn't mean much when it comes from a person at the company that makes the product. Its like if Elon Musk said that X has gotten better since he took over it, that kind of feedback only really works if it comes from people outside the company (like HN).

Re: Do People Like Medium?

#18

I like medium. When I see a link to medium on hacker news or ddg, etc, I know right away that it's low quality garbage and I should skip over it. They're like a big smelly dump, that helps to keep the rest of the internet clean.

Why is this on us (I'm Medium's CEO)? We have control over our own recommendations, and they have gotten a lot better. But people seem to take the worst articles, post them over here, and the people here upvote them. That seems like a problem with HN.

Hey Tony, from my perspective, I think there are a couple things at play with peoples sentiment about Medium.

I think part of it is how aggressive the monetization is. That isn't to say that your competitors, and a huge swathe of publishers aren't doing the same thing. It seems the value prop is getting rid of all the noise. That can be a difficult sell. Publishing is in a weird place. For writing about current events or topics in the zeitgeist, the internet is flooded with articles re-tracing the same points.

I think the other part is that a similar problem that every platform that allows its user to monetize UGC, it attracts large numbers of people who want to game the system (or well meaning people who still exhibit spammy behavior). So those people upload poor articles and share them to as many places as they can to try to capture some ad rev. They end up flooding somewhere like HN, and people sour on the platform instead of the person who uploaded it.

I don't think that is unique to medium, or even unusual in the publishing space. It seems more likely that Medium is big platform, so people see it more often, and more often associate it with these problems.

Re: Do People Like Medium?

#20

I like medium. When I see a link to medium on hacker news or ddg, etc, I know right away that it's low quality garbage and I should skip over it. They're like a big smelly dump, that helps to keep the rest of the internet clean.

Why is this on us (I'm Medium's CEO)? We have control over our own recommendations, and they have gotten a lot better. But people seem to take the worst articles, post them over here, and the people here upvote them. That seems like a problem with HN.

Whether or not it is fair for it to be on you, it still is. Because it is your problem whether or not Medium succeeds, not ours. Even if you are 100% correct, and HN's attitude is completely incorrect and unfair... that don't hurt us none. It does hurt you. (If you care about us as a potential market segment.)

So it is on you because you are the one who needs the brand to be viewed positively.

Specifically, it is on you to put on a product hat, come understand what we feel, why we feel it, and what might make us more interested in your product. Or not. Your company, your choice.

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