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Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by deminature »

FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

My experience with covid is that severe post-disease inflammation can cause wild neurological symptoms including anxiety and depression. I had a 'mild' case and still suffered significant, long-lasting inflammation. I see very few people talking about this outside special-interest covid discussion boards. Surprisingly, my doctor was already aware of the destructive potential of inflammation for mental health.

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Post by alexey-salmin »

standardly wrote: post #8

I have a hard time making sense of parts of this article. RE: Treatment: "“What is we can track the body temperature of people with depression to time heat-based treatments well?” "If thermoregulation is a symptom of depression, as the Oura Ring study suggests, temperature treatment could be an effective way to treat depression." Thermoregulation is a symptom of depression? How do they reach the conclusion that "temp…

The article is not very good, but the overall direction seem to check out quite well with other research. There seem to be a proven correlation between inflammation and depression. Furthermore anti-inflammatory drugs seem to provide efficient anti-depressant care in some cases. They would lover your body temperature too.

Conversely I can imagine regular visits to a sauna to affect chronic inflammation processes in your body in some way and then potentially affect the depression too.

Overall I have a strong feeling that depression itself is very akin to fever: a symptom of a very wide range of different problems that require different treatments. Sometimes just the symptomatic care is sufficient, sometimes it's even essential or else you die. Anti-inflammatory drugs are a thing and so are the anti-depressants. But studying and treating depression as a distinct disease probably makes no more sense than studying and treating fever as a distinct disease.

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Post by monknomo »

FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

I mean, inflammation markers are very common in mood disorders. The direction of causality is interesting to me. I tend to believe that there is a disease process somewhere we have not yet found that causes this inflammation, rather than feeling sad (or manic) causes inflammation

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Post by 7thaccount »

deminature wrote: post #21
FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

My experience with covid is that severe post-disease inflammation can cause wild neurological symptoms including anxiety and depression. I had a 'mild' case and still suffered significant, long-lasting inflammation. I see very few people talking about this outside special-interest covid discussion boards. Surprisingly, my doctor was already aware of the destructive potential of inflammation for mental health.

Sometime early during the pandemic I believe I got Covid as my breathing got really messed up in a way my medications couldn't help and I never have asthma issues during that time of the year (no typical symptoms though). I noticed not long after that occurrence that any caffeine consumption would give me massive anxiety attacks and a heart beat out of rhythm. I've never had issues with either before. Heart stress test found nothing. I stopped caffeine for over a year. Funny thing was I found out that this wasn't a super rare occurrence either. I met other people randomly (I didn't bring it up) that quit caffeine after Covid due to a sudden intolerance for it.

Covid is absolutely wild.

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Post by deminature »

7thaccount wrote: post #24
deminature wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with covid is that severe post-disease inflammation can cause wild neurological symptoms including anxiety and depression. I had a 'mild' case and still suffered significant, long-lasting inflammation. I see very few people talking about this outside special-interest covid discussion boards. Surprisingly, my doctor was already aware of the destructive potential of inflammation for mental health.

Sometime early during the pandemic I believe I got Covid as my breathing got really messed up in a way my medications couldn't help and I never have asthma issues during that time of the year (no typical symptoms though). I noticed not long after that occurrence that any caffeine consumption would give me massive anxiety attacks and a heart beat out of rhythm. I've never had issues with either before. Heart stress te…

I've had the same thing with caffeine causing significant anxiety that didn't occur beforehand. One of my medications also stopped working for a month afterwards. I'm surprised there's not more concern in broader society about the multi-systemic health issues this infection can cause before barreling into shoving people into crowded public spaces again, where they can catch it repeatedly.

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

You know there's so much talk on many physical symptoms being "psychogenic" or whatever. Even psychologists or general medical professionals will claim that whatever symptoms you are feeling are probably psychogenic.

It makes me wonder if many things might be the other way around. That there's clear physical reasons for many mental or psychological problems.

It's just always easier to claim something is psychogenic when you don't know the cause with hopes that it's enough to placebo the patient to calm down about anything they might be feeling.

When someone, especially a professional claims that whatever you are feeling is psychogenic it feels like a dismissal of what you are feeling. A person is feeling something wrong and essentially they are being told that you are imagining it, and it actually does not matter. Which in a way makes it worse, because not only you are feeling it, you are also being told you are crazy to feel it.

And that there's no hope or solution for it, because you are imagining it, therefore it can't be solved, or you don't know how to solve it in the first place.

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Post by lhuser123 »

FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

https://brainenergy.com/

In his book, Dr. Chris Palmer says “Mental disorders are metabolic disorders of the brain”.

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Post by BobbyTables2 »

7thaccount wrote: post #24
deminature wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with covid is that severe post-disease inflammation can cause wild neurological symptoms including anxiety and depression. I had a 'mild' case and still suffered significant, long-lasting inflammation. I see very few people talking about this outside special-interest covid discussion boards. Surprisingly, my doctor was already aware of the destructive potential of inflammation for mental health.

Sometime early during the pandemic I believe I got Covid as my breathing got really messed up in a way my medications couldn't help and I never have asthma issues during that time of the year (no typical symptoms though). I noticed not long after that occurrence that any caffeine consumption would give me massive anxiety attacks and a heart beat out of rhythm. I've never had issues with either before. Heart stress te…

Have you ever worn an EKG monitor for a few days?

I had PVCs, but only at rest. Completely disappeared with the slightest walk on the treadmill test.

Either Omnicron or a minor cold kicked all this off, plus 2 months of painful heart inflammation that couldn’t be positively diagnosed. During the inflammation, caffeine caused delayed discomfort.

The PVCs caused a lot of discomfort while resting/sleeping and were somehow worse long after exercise.

Cardiac ablation got rid of them.

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Post by paulpauper »

About one in five adults wore a fitness tracker, either as a band or smartwatch, in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center.

I'm sure it's higher now and yet obesity rates keep going up. Shows how ineffective these solutions are. People are more active and tracking their calories yet weight gain is unstoppable.

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