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Goodbye Auth0

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Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by robertlagrant »

buro9 wrote: post #36

This bit at the end: > and learned an enormous amount about what it means to build and run a people-first company Seems at odds with this bit at the beginning: > And then it happened, I got the email. Slack didn't work. My laptop restarted and came back with accounts missing. It really, actually happened. And even though the writing seemed to be on the wall, I was still caught a bit off guard. This industry (not spec…

> know that every right that you ever had was earned through a union

This really isn't true. Lots of these perks are because there was loads of money sloshing around, and a competitive hiring environment drove the culture to be as attractive as possible for employees.

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by stevage »

robertlagrant wrote: post #231
buro9 wrote: post #36

This bit at the end: > and learned an enormous amount about what it means to build and run a people-first company Seems at odds with this bit at the beginning: > And then it happened, I got the email. Slack didn't work. My laptop restarted and came back with accounts missing. It really, actually happened. And even though the writing seemed to be on the wall, I was still caught a bit off guard. This industry (not spec…

> know that every right that you ever had was earned through a union This really isn't true. Lots of these perks are because there was loads of money sloshing around, and a competitive hiring environment drove the culture to be as attractive as possible for employees.

Perks and rights are extremely different. Companies can't take rights away.

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by [deleted] »

rollulus wrote: post #4

I don’t get it why the US company layoff culture is so different from what I’m familiar with, the European one. What are they afraid of that people need to be locked out? That one brings a gun to work? Here you get laid off, get a notice, are expected to continue working for a while (but depending on your work ethic you’ll take it easy), consume your remaining PTO, complain to your coworkers about what happened durin…

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Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by paulddraper »

adrr wrote: post #227
nu11ptr wrote: post #52

Do a lot of companies actually fire people via email? That seems very cold! Most of the companies I've worked for they will call you into a meeting with your boss and HR and then have security walk you out after gathering your things. Not ideal, but at least has a human element. If this person was remote then it could at least be done via phone.

For small layoffs its possible to do it individually. If you're firing hundreds or thousands of people, there isn't enough HR to go around and a lack of IT people to individually cut people's access throughout the day. Laid off in 2012, they just put hundreds of us in an event room and let us all go at once. I'd prefer an email and not have to do the walk of shame back to my desk with a box.

The larger the company, the more resources you have.

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by paulddraper »

prmoustache wrote: post #96
nu11ptr wrote: post #52

Do a lot of companies actually fire people via email? That seems very cold! Most of the companies I've worked for they will call you into a meeting with your boss and HR and then have security walk you out after gathering your things. Not ideal, but at least has a human element. If this person was remote then it could at least be done via phone.

I am pretty sure the guy was working remotely.

That doesn't change anything about the comment, other than "security walk you out."

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by 616c »

dm03514 wrote: post #5

Auth0 truly did an amazing job on hiring for culture, being transparent and living their values. The pre-acquisition Glassdoor reviews were astounding and back this up. For myself, working at auth0 was truly life altering. It was the first time I was in a long standing multi-national environment. It was the first time I was deeply exposed to other cultures and ways of living. As a side effect of working at Auth0, Thi…

I traveled some in college to not so tourist friendly places and then worked as an expat in IT and I feel so fortunate for the same takeaways I am bitter and cynical as an American but defend the other at home and abroad because it made me keenly aware of our shared perspective It always makes me often wallow in guilt it took a privileged family to kick that off and let me learn it far away and not build up such empathy at home.

When I read shared experiences like ours on the Internet it reminds me of what I think is the one true value of this tool for humanity I wish it was used for that the majority of the time by most people but oh well!

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by spacephysics »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #220
great_wubwub wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once I got laid off via 1:1 call. Once I got laid off via a mass call with HR, they canned my entire department at once (300+ people). Once I got laid off via bulk bcc'd email because I was on vacation and missed the last-minute mass call with HR. This has never happened to me, but I am absolutely 100% positive some companies just shut your access off, send you an email to an account you can't log into any more, and…

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The 20th century communist one was sure a joy. What we have may not be perfect, but it’s the best so far

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by joshcanhelp »

brightstep wrote: post #152

> I was being exposed to engineering concepts that just weren't a thing in agency work: unit testing, CI/CD, git hygiene, release management. As someone who’s worked at an agency that’s grown from twenty engineers to hundreds over the last five years, what? Even when we were small and scrappy we still wrote unit tests…

My experience was 100% different (but also 6+ years ago). Margins just weren't enough to build it into estimates and it was nearly impossible to sell it to clients as a line item.

Re: Goodbye Auth0

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Post by gwright »

paulddraper wrote: post #234
adrr wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For small layoffs its possible to do it individually. If you're firing hundreds or thousands of people, there isn't enough HR to go around and a lack of IT people to individually cut people's access throughout the day. Laid off in 2012, they just put hundreds of us in an event room and let us all go at once. I'd prefer an email and not have to do the walk of shame back to my desk with a box.

The larger the company, the more resources you have.

More resources for "normal" business. Laying off large number of people isn't normal business and so there would be no expectation you had HR/security resources just sitting around waiting for that type of an event.
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