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Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Post by whitehexagon »

6 years ago I said I'd never give apple another cent, but the Asahi Linux project, and especially their efforts around OpenGL, or more specifically their ES 3 support, finally convinced me to pick up a secondhand M1 last month. Amazing work by the team!

I wonder if one day the USB4 ports will be able to fully support USB3, so confusing.

Anyway I haven't felt the need to boot macos so far :) and the installation was a breeze, big thanks to the team.

As a bonus the unified memory allowed me to get an LLM running locally, but I suspect it is CPU bound and probably not using the new GPU driver.

Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Post by jwells89 »

zamadatix wrote: post #15
larrik wrote: post #7

I switched to an M1 Air back at the beginning of 2021, was on Linux (desktop machine) about a decade before that. It's basically purely a work machine (software and management). The hardware is amazing. The battery life is astounding. The software, in almost every area, is inferior to my experience in Linux. The Apple parts generally worst of all (only Microsoft Office on it is worse). In the end, I'm probably 70% as…

By 4k monitor do you mean a high DPI monitor? Not much has changed in regards to resolution support, that should always have been fine, but a lot has changed in regards to high DPI support with Wayland now having "real" (direct) fractional scaling which makes it even better at approaching the problem than macOS which has "fake" (render and scale) fractional scaling. KDE Plasma and QT apps (the default desktop environ…

“Better” still has some asterisks, for example though KDE is by far the best of the major DEs in terms of fractional scaling support under Wayland, it still has some oddities like Aurora window decoration themes not drawing properly with fractional scaling, limiting the user to one of a tiny handful of C++ window decorations (the overwhelming majority are Aurora). GTK apps under KDE can act a bit funny too, with e.g. your cursor drawing at 2x when hovering over a GTK window.

I deal with these things daily using a Thinkpad with a display that requires 1.5x scaling to be usable. Can’t wait for these issues to be solved and for the asterisks to disappear.

Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Post by jwells89 »

Phemist wrote: post #32
larrik wrote: post #7

I switched to an M1 Air back at the beginning of 2021, was on Linux (desktop machine) about a decade before that. It's basically purely a work machine (software and management). The hardware is amazing. The battery life is astounding. The software, in almost every area, is inferior to my experience in Linux. The Apple parts generally worst of all (only Microsoft Office on it is worse). In the end, I'm probably 70% as…

My main gripe - how on vanilla MacOS alt(cmd)-tabbing cycles through applications first and then _all their windows_ rather than windows first, doing _nothing_ on a per application basis. I cannot imagine how this matches at all to anyone's workflow. Nobody at apple works on a single project across multiple applications (documentation in browswr, your IDE, an emulator, some terminals, etc.).? You have to install a sp…

Command-` is the shortcut you want for cycling through windows within an app, otherwise Exposé/Mission Control is the layer that can be configured to think in “windows” instead of in “applications”.

Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Post by asoneth »

faitswulff wrote: post #38
HideousKojima wrote: post #33

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Is...that Hector Martin's vtuber persona? I was under the impression that they were different people.

There is some evidence to that effect: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35237006

(Note that I'm not necessarily endorsing any specific views about this, just linking to a past discussion.)

Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple

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Post by jlund-molfese »

larrik wrote: post #7

I switched to an M1 Air back at the beginning of 2021, was on Linux (desktop machine) about a decade before that. It's basically purely a work machine (software and management). The hardware is amazing. The battery life is astounding. The software, in almost every area, is inferior to my experience in Linux. The Apple parts generally worst of all (only Microsoft Office on it is worse). In the end, I'm probably 70% as…

The tone of the community is really different, too—and imo the worst thing about the transition from Linux -> OS X. And ok, it's not a fair comparison, because Linux users tend to be way more technical due in part to the OS family's barriers of entry.

Still, it's annoying when you search for how to do something in OS X and the first few threads are full of people saying "that isn't how it works! Instead of wanting to change it, you need to understand and follow the Apple Way™!" You're usually able to find the solution after a bit more searching, but the Apple Forums are especially bad.

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