Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
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Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#2Honestly, I have been a bit disappointed by Apple. On one hand, they make some seriously awesome hardware with amazing performance doing tasks like rendering and whatnot. On the other hand, they seem incapable of getting awesome performance in other areas, the hardware is incredibly locked away from the supposed owners of the devices, and the pricing for RAM and storage are insane. I don't want to dislike Apple because the hardware is great and their stand against US law enforcement on things like encryption, but a handful things shatter the experience for me. Asahi seems to be solving part of the problem, but the hardware being so ... expensive and locked away remains an issue.
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#3Are these the Rust-based drivers they've talked a ton about, or different ones?
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#4Honestly, I have been a bit disappointed by Apple. On one hand, they make some seriously awesome hardware with amazing performance doing tasks like rendering and whatnot. On the other hand, they seem incapable of getting awesome performance in other areas, the hardware is incredibly locked away from the supposed owners of the devices, and the pricing for RAM and storage are insane. I don't want to dislike Apple becau…
> their stand against US law enforcement on things like encryption
Are you referring to the San Bernadino shooter's iPhone?
Because Apple's attempt to introduce CSAM scanning is certainly not what I would call a stand against US law enforcement.
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#5Are these the Rust-based drivers they've talked a ton about, or different ones?
These are the Mesa drivers linked from the blog post: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/asahi/mesa, so not Rust AFAICS
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#6See also:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39371669 (100+ comments)
Conformant OpenGL 4.6 on the M1 (rosenzweig.io)
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#7I switched to an M1 Air back at the beginning of 2021, was on Linux (desktop machine) about a decade before that. It's basically purely a work machine (software and management).
The hardware is amazing. The battery life is astounding.
The software, in almost every area, is inferior to my experience in Linux. The Apple parts generally worst of all (only Microsoft Office on it is worse). In the end, I'm probably 70% as efficient on macOS as I was on Linux after 3 years of using it.
The one thing macOS did better than my Linux box, hands-down, was supporting a 4k monitor. My Linux install was a little long in the tooth, though, so hopefully it's gotten better?
I really look forward to using Asahi when/if it's ready. I'd love to go back to Linux.
Example gripes:
- macOS offers this great feature that announces the time every half hour (or whatever you set it to). For a year, after a major OS update, it just didn't work after reboot unless you went in and changed it. Solutions? Wait for Apple to fix it (or write a wonky script to fix it on boot, which I did). Eventually they did, but ug.
- to support using 3 finger clicks as middle-click I had to buy software. On Windows this is just built in. On Linux it's on by default.
- to make Spotify work somewhat properly I had to download separate software (BeardSpice). After 3 years, I forget what that actually does
- if I open Spotify and hit the Play button on my keyboard, Apple Music opens. (Once I actually play Spotify it fixes it, though)
- it took me a LONG time to figure out how to set Excel to open CSVs instead of Apple's Numbers app
- The Apple calendar app alerts me whenever I create an event in another app (Outlook, Google, whatever). Like I got invited. To an event I created. It didn't used to do that...
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#8Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#9Are these the Rust-based drivers they've talked a ton about, or different ones?
yes, rust-based drivers at the core
but also a bunch of other things
like it uses mesa and similar parts of the normal GPU support stack
and also involved some kernel patches outside of the rust kernel module as far as I vaguely remember
really a grate achievement where in the end rust was like a tool to make certain parts easier but all the hard parts are in the end unrelated to rust (like reverse engineering, coming up with solutions for the many issues of mapping GPU APIs Apple doesn't care much about to hardware mainly focused on on just Metal etc.)
Re: Asahi Linux project's OpenGL support on Apple Silicon officially surpasses Apple
#10Honestly, I have been a bit disappointed by Apple. On one hand, they make some seriously awesome hardware with amazing performance doing tasks like rendering and whatnot. On the other hand, they seem incapable of getting awesome performance in other areas, the hardware is incredibly locked away from the supposed owners of the devices, and the pricing for RAM and storage are insane. I don't want to dislike Apple becau…
> their stand against US law enforcement on things like encryption Are you referring to the San Bernadino shooter's iPhone? Because Apple's attempt to introduce CSAM scanning is certainly not what I would call a stand against US law enforcement.
I imagine they are, as well as the e2e encryption added to icloud after they dropped the CSAM thing.
My pet theory is basically a rouge VP started the on device scanning project with whatever external org they worked with, and basically blindsided the rest of the company. Tim Cook probably called the person and was like what the fuck. Or at least I’d like to imagine that. I wonder if that VP still works at Apple?