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Google is making a map of methane leaks for the whole world to see

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Re: Google is making a map of methane leaks for the whole world to see

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Post by vdaea »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #3
alecco wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, memory holed: >The Nord Stream breach released between 56,000 and 155,000 tonnes of methane into the atmosphere, making it among the largest methane emissions ever recorded from a single point https://www.newscientist.com/article/2342081-nord-stream-lea... https://archive.ph/Yb20f

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Re: Google is making a map of methane leaks for the whole world to see

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Post by alecco »

Alifatisk wrote: post #14
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Was it the US?

"Swedish prosecutors have said they will end their investigation into the sabotage of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines in 2022, dodging the question of who destroyed the then new energy link between Russia and Europe shortly after Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/07/sweden-drop...

And

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#Membersh...

Re: Google is making a map of methane leaks for the whole world to see

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Post by danbruc »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #3
alecco wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, memory holed: >The Nord Stream breach released between 56,000 and 155,000 tonnes of methane into the atmosphere, making it among the largest methane emissions ever recorded from a single point https://www.newscientist.com/article/2342081-nord-stream-lea... https://archive.ph/Yb20f

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In my opinion the most worrying thing in this story is that nobody is willing to come forward and say who did it. Sure, there is the possibility that nobody knows with certainty and I understand it in that case, you do not want to accuse anyone if you are not pretty sure. But from following the story - admittedly not too closely - I did not get the impression that this is the case, but I may just be wrong.

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Post by timeon »

ed_balls wrote: post #18
alecco wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, memory holed: >The Nord Stream breach released between 56,000 and 155,000 tonnes of methane into the atmosphere, making it among the largest methane emissions ever recorded from a single point https://www.newscientist.com/article/2342081-nord-stream-lea... https://archive.ph/Yb20f

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> At least methane will dissipate out out of the atmosphere

Methane will not simply dissipate. It will turn into water and CO2.

> but extra CO2 emissions from closing down the nuclear plants in Germany will not.

Somehow still managed to have smaller CO2 output per capita than US.

Re: Google is making a map of methane leaks for the whole world to see

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Post by marliechiller »

thinkcontext wrote: post #5

The rise of independent imaging of methane leaks through satellites and overflights has been revelatory. They've shown the numbers industry was reporting and EPA has been using in its GHG estimates have been comically low. The more they look the more they keep finding. Some areas of the Permian in NM are so bad at 9% leakage rate that their GHG impact is worse than coal . Industry of course is shocked (shocked!) and…

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that whilst methane is many times worse than CO2 in terms of its warming effect, it also has a much shorter "half life" than CO2 - in the region of a few years before its no longer having an effect on warming. Not to minimise the fact that we should be avoiding contributing to global warming in any way possible, but comparing it to coal therefore is apples to oranges

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Post by matthewdgreen »

alecco wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, memory holed: >The Nord Stream breach released between 56,000 and 155,000 tonnes of methane into the atmosphere, making it among the largest methane emissions ever recorded from a single point https://www.newscientist.com/article/2342081-nord-stream-lea... https://archive.ph/Yb20f

It was a huge methane release, but it isn't continuous. The US oil and gas industry (all by itself) emits 8,000,000 metric tons of methane every year, and global emissions are vastly greater. Ongoing emissions are worthy of our attention because we can do something about them on a forward-looking basis; Nord Stream isn't because we don't have a time machine.
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