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Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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"A Nobel prize-winning researcher whose publications have come under scrutiny has retracted his 10th paper for issues with the data and images.

Gregg Semenza, a professor of genetic medicine and director of the vascular program at Johns Hopkins’ Institute for Cell Engineering in Baltimore, shared the 2019 Nobel prize in physiology or medicine for “discoveries of how cells sense and adapt to oxygen availability.”

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Remember the Sokal Hoax and Sokal Squared? Turns out that STEM also has all those problems. For profit universities pushing academics to "publish or perish" are the real enemies here, for all disciplines.

I'm pretty sure that this Nobel Prize winner does not work at a for profit university.

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Remember the Sokal Hoax and Sokal Squared? Turns out that STEM also has all those problems. For profit universities pushing academics to "publish or perish" are the real enemies here, for all disciplines.

Publish or perish and other academic pressures are hardly unique to for profit or even non profit universities, even Government institutions have similar incentive models to get tenure or other advancements, it seems pretty universal ?

Do you know of a study or citation about any academic research quality/quantity challenges that are found at a higher rate in for profit / non profit private institutions ?

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Remember the Sokal Hoax and Sokal Squared? Turns out that STEM also has all those problems. For profit universities pushing academics to "publish or perish" are the real enemies here, for all disciplines.

I'm pretty sure that this Nobel Prize winner does not work at a for profit university.

Journals are also absolutely involved and incentivised.

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Worth remembering that Linus Pauling went off the deep end on Vitamin C. Not that he faked stuff, but that even very smart people get sucked into wierd science sometimes.

So leaping from this, to Semanza is emperor's-new-clothes is pushing too far. If he's moved into a space where marginal behaviour around research is normalised thats really bad but it doesn't have to mean his Nobel wasn't warranted, that depends on other questions: Questions which might still need to be asked, but this isn't the smoking gun. It's maybe more why asking those questions might become more important.

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Remember the Sokal Hoax and Sokal Squared? Turns out that STEM also has all those problems. For profit universities pushing academics to "publish or perish" are the real enemies here, for all disciplines.

I'm pretty sure that this Nobel Prize winner does not work at a for profit university.

For what it's worth, I sort of read that as "universities incentivized to maximize profit or income", not literally formally for-profit universities. Sort of a biting remark about typical university motivations, not literal.

Even if the poster didn't intend it that way, I think it could easily be read that way.

Re: Nobel Prize winner Gregg Semenza tallies tenth retraction (2023)

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Remember the Sokal Hoax and Sokal Squared? Turns out that STEM also has all those problems. For profit universities pushing academics to "publish or perish" are the real enemies here, for all disciplines.

I'm pretty sure that this Nobel Prize winner does not work at a for profit university.

Just because it's non-profit doesn't mean it's not about money.
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