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Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

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Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#41

People are reading way too much into the Waymo incident. It was Chinese new year. There was a bunch of drunk people in the street. Somebody messed with the car, and then somebody else did, and so on. Until somebody threw a firework in there out of memetic one upmanship and it caught the thing on fire. You can see this in the videos. This was not ideological, it was just mob revelry gone awry.

You're missing the part where no one seriously wanted to stop it.

As you point out these kind of excess happen all the time at festive events, someone drunkyard will kick a car, steal a street plate or deface a poster. But it stops there, as a random mischief. People piling up on the same thing isn't random or just a natural behavior, and nobody telling them to just move on goes along that line.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#42

That is a such an emblematic, iconic, fantastic image - the carcass of the car and all it represents, surrounded by humans somewhat curious but also somewhat satisfied, much as the first woolly mammoth kill must have been.

You're romanticizing violent antisocial behavior into some kind of art form. Maybe you should see this from the perspective of a young family trying to raise their children here.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#43

I bet people are frustrated with the fact that those self-driving cars can drive around, smash into cars and kill pedestrians. Despite data showing that it does drive worse than a human. In any civilized country, either the local or federal government wouldn't allow such thing. But as it's America, its leaders believe it needs to be the forefront of everything in the world, so some sacrifices are allowed to be made i…

what data shows that? Waymo IME is easily in the 90th percentile of drivers in SF.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#44

That is a such an emblematic, iconic, fantastic image - the carcass of the car and all it represents, surrounded by humans somewhat curious but also somewhat satisfied, much as the first woolly mammoth kill must have been.

You're romanticizing violent antisocial behavior into some kind of art form. Maybe you should see this from the perspective of a young family trying to raise their children here.

I see it from the perspective of a great photograph.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#45
I can imagine myself participating in this form of civil disobedience. Self-driving cars are not okay.

The streets are for people, not for escaped algorithms.

I am saying this because a lot of commenters appear to dismiss people who feel this way. Just wanted to raise my hand and be counted among the resistance.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're romanticizing violent antisocial behavior into some kind of art form. Maybe you should see this from the perspective of a young family trying to raise their children here.

I see it from the perspective of a great photograph.

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Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#47

People are reading way too much into the Waymo incident. It was Chinese new year. There was a bunch of drunk people in the street. Somebody messed with the car, and then somebody else did, and so on. Until somebody threw a firework in there out of memetic one upmanship and it caught the thing on fire. You can see this in the videos. This was not ideological, it was just mob revelry gone awry.

You're missing the part where no one seriously wanted to stop it. As you point out these kind of excess happen all the time at festive events, someone drunkyard will kick a car, steal a street plate or deface a poster. But it stops there, as a random mischief. People piling up on the same thing isn't random or just a natural behavior, and nobody telling them to just move on goes along that line.

People burned up a Muni bus after the World Series, and no one stopped them. And it was certainly a collective thing, not a lone miscreant.

Vehicles that are owned by large apersonal organizations seem like a common target in this type of thing.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're romanticizing violent antisocial behavior into some kind of art form. Maybe you should see this from the perspective of a young family trying to raise their children here.

I see it from the perspective of a great photograph.

The next time you see someone romanticizing the aesthetics of some antisocial behavior that you find repulsive, then you'll know how it feels to be on the other side of this discussion.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#49

The whole article reads like what I don't like is immoral and what is immoral justifies my action (to a certain degree, at least). So, I really don't understand: why do techies still even go to the city? Just leave it alone and come back to the south bay.

A single block in SF has more charm than the whole of Sunnyvale. Despite some of the toxic people who live here, there's a reason many people want to.

Re: Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated

#50

I can imagine myself participating in this form of civil disobedience. Self-driving cars are not okay. The streets are for people, not for escaped algorithms. I am saying this because a lot of commenters appear to dismiss people who feel this way. Just wanted to raise my hand and be counted among the resistance.

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