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Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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I use already a few ai tools even without perfect accuracy. And a LLM who only needs to call to a few API calls isn't hard. Very little need perfect accuracy and for that we still have classical software.

You use them successfully because your human mind can filter out the junk. It would only take one inaccurate API call that charges your credit card $10k or sells your car for 10 cents to cause a lot of damage to your life.

Which is why even with classical software, most of us don't have APIs where that's all it takes.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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Yea that's a good point. Now I am curious, what are some tasks that can accept a model that is at 80% as good as a human, but is 100x cheaper?(or, 100x faster?)

A ton of tasks. Call centers to start with (they already do[1]), with human fallback. 1: In my country, after ChatGPT launched last year, when you call customer support you are now prompted to “just say in a few words” what you want instead of going through tap-this-number menus (they exist as a fallback) and I believe the backend is an LLM. The user flow and voice recordings are still programmatically determined tho…

I speak English clearly. These things always tell me to repeat what I said. Never once has it ever worked for me. I want to throw my phone at the wall.

Also I think this has been around for longer than chatgpt. It is often accompanied by a fake keyboard clicking noise.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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Don't downplay the value of watching agents talk to each other for amusement. I got a lot of mileage out of that and will continue to do so.

This, I am quite happy to watch a dozen 'agents' thrash out some ethical issues purely for my own wn amusement, it's fascinating! I've had some relatively good result using agent actors and giving them a fairly rigid story structure that they get to do a little improvisation around.

What are you using to set up and run a multi ai interaction?

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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A big problem thus far has been singular agents trying to solve all aspects of the task, which others have noted can cause a 90% success rate to result in .9.9.9. I expect this spring and summer we will see the first batches of agents working together to solve problems. ChatGPT announced the ability for their paywalled GPTs to call upon other GPTs which is an elementary version of this process. As teams experiment with these concepts, and as compute costs fall in parallel, I believe we will see potentially thousands or millions of them working together. Doing so will bring a more deterministic outcome to the process while also encouraging the unexpected and variable output that is inherent in LLM output.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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> I'd love to know what are some of the hidden challenges to making a useful product with agents? One thing that is still confusing to me, is that we've been building products with machine learning pretty heavily for a decade now and somehow abandoned all that we have learned about the process now that we're building "AI". The biggest thing any ML practitioner realizes when they step out of a research setting is that…

One interesting thing about LLMs is that they can actually recover (and without error loops). You can have a step that doesn't work right, and a later step can use its common-sense knowledge to ignore some of the missing results, conflicting information, etc. One of the problems with developing with LLMs is that the machine will often cover up bugs! You think it's giving sub-par results but actually you've given it conflicting or incomplete instructions.

Another opportunity is that you can have less steps or more shared context. One interesting thing about Whisper is that it's not just straight speech recognition but can also be prompted and given context to understand what sort of thing the speech may be about, increasing its accuracy considerably. LLM Vision models also do this with things like OCR. This might not help it with the individual digits in an account number, but it does help with distinguishing an account number from a street address on a check.

Or to take another old-style ML technique, you probably shouldn't be doing sentiment analysis in some pipeline, because you don't need to: instead you should step back and look at the purpose of the sentiment analysis and see if you can connect that purpose directly with the original text.

All that said, you definitely can write pipelines with compounding errors. We haven't collectively learned how to factor problems and engineer these systems with LLMs yet. Among the things I think we have to do is connect the tools more directly with user intention (effectively flatting another error-inducing part of the pipeline), and make the pipelines collaborative with users. This is more complex and distinctly not autonomous, but then hopefully you are addressing a broader problem or doing so in a more complete way.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea that's a good point. Now I am curious, what are some tasks that can accept a model that is at 80% as good as a human, but is 100x cheaper?(or, 100x faster?)

A ton of tasks. Call centers to start with (they already do[1]), with human fallback. 1: In my country, after ChatGPT launched last year, when you call customer support you are now prompted to “just say in a few words” what you want instead of going through tap-this-number menus (they exist as a fallback) and I believe the backend is an LLM. The user flow and voice recordings are still programmatically determined tho…

Yea that's pretty cool too, I heard some restaurants are also doing a 100% voice LLM to take orders.

Transcription, specifically Whisper, is one of those ML models where the accuracy is basically on-par with humans. So, I really expect a lot more to come out of real time voice/LLM integrations.(the ChatGPT voice thing is a good glimpse, but very janky)

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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I taught https://github.com/KillianLucas/open-interpreter how to use https://github.com/ferrislucas/promptr Then I asked it to add a test suite to a rails side project. It created missing factories, corrected a broken test database configuration, and wrote tests for the classes and controllers that I asked it to. I didn't have to get involved with mundane details. I did have to intervene here and there, but not much.…

This is pretty cool! Another use case where the cost of being slightly worse than a human is totally fine.(coming from someone that doesn't write tests lol) I'd love to learn in more detail how it created those factories, corrected broken test database. It _feels_ that some of these tasks require knowing different parts of the codebase decently well, which from my experience hasn't always been the strong suite for AI…

OI fixed the factories and config by attempting to run the tests. The test run would fail because there's no test suite configured, so OI inspected the Gemfile using `cat`. Then it used Promptr with a prompt like "add the rspec gem to Gemfile". Then OI tries again and again - addressing each error as encountered until the test suite was up and running.

In the case of generating unit tests using Promptr, I have an "include" file that I include from every prompt. The "include" file is specific to the project that I'm using Promptr in. It says something like "This is a rails 7 app that serves as an API for an SPA front end. Use rspec for tests. etc. etc."

Somewhere in that "include" file there is a summary of the main entities of the codebase, so that every request has a general understanding of the main concepts that the codebase is dealing with. In the case of the rspec tests that it generated, I included the relevant files in the prompt by including the path to the files in the prompt I give to Promptr.

For example, if a test is for the Book model then I mention book.rb in the prompt. Perhaps Book uses some services in app/services - if that's relevant for the task then I'll include a glob of files using a command line argument - something like `promptr -p prompt.liquid app/services/book*.rb` where prompt.liquid has my prompt mentioning book.rb

You have to know what to include in the prompts and don't be shy about stuffing it full of files. It works until it doesn't, but I've been surprised at well it works in a lot of cases.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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A few personal uses: 1. Find, annotate, aggregate, organize, summarize, etc all of my knowledge from notes 2. A Google substitute with direct answers in place of SEO junktext and countless ads 3. Writing boilerplate code, especially in unfamiliar languages 4. Dynamic, general, richly nuanced multimodal content moderation without the human labor bill 5. As an extremely effective personal tutor for learning nearly anyt…

5) is the killer app for me. I don’t really search to discover or learn any more, at least not to satiate curiosity. I chat with an LLM

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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Prioritization of work (security)

Feed in a collection of docs about applications in use at an organization including their user guides; summarize what the capability of each application is; identify what capabilities are high risk; prioritize which applications need the most security visibility

Usually this is a classic difficult problem of inventory and 100 meetings.

Perfect? Nope. A huge leap forward? Yes.

Re: Ask HN: What are some actual use cases of AI Agents right now?

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There are countless use cases for a good AI agent.

The problem is temporary: good AI agents don't exist, because sufficiently intelligent AI doesn't yet exist.

(Agency and broad-domain intelligence are basically the same thing. Being able to answer questions relevant to planning is planning.)

This state of affairs is in stark contrast to the crypto/Web3 space, where no one ever presented a use case even conditional on the existence of good blockchain technology.

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