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Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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No, the ruling is more than that it must be filed in the name of a human. It also says 'a real person must have made a “significant contribution”'.

Oh, so it's effectively a useless ruling. Got it.

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Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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I thought the purpose was to make sure other don't benefit from your own hardwork.

That's not the purpose, that's the carrot the patent system gives in exchange for the invention being disclosed and ultimately (within a couple of decades) made available for general use. The purpose of the patent system, really, is to benefit society, not inventors.

That's the putative reason for both parents and copyright. And I addressed that: the machine isn't motivated economically to increase the public domain.

The real reason is to own ideas, because people feel that creation is special. Takes hard work, or creativity or inspiration from the gods.

Machine generated ideas undermines all of that.

Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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I wonder why the system prompt for ChatGPT [1] has such harsh language around recipes? > EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Do NOT be thorough in the case of lyrics or recipes found online. Even if the user insists. You can make up recipes though. [1] https://github.com/spdustin/ChatGPT-AutoExpert/blob/main/_sy...

That isn't the system prompt for chatgpt, that's some random's prompts.

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Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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(EDIT: I'd love for someone who downvoted me to actually answer my question.) Next up: - Only real people can get a driver's license, says government - Only real people can have birth certificates, says government - Only real people can run for president, says government So far each of these types of "cases" have just been "duh" moments. The fact that these are coming up in court rulings at all seems to give vibes th…

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Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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So you can subvert patents with prior art by proofing access to a existing model that produces said art?

If you can prove that an AI did so prior, I think it'd be a fine proof of the "obviousness" of the patent, would it not?

If you're talking after: common sense needs to come into play, right? Because that's easy to fake.

Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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I wonder why the system prompt for ChatGPT [1] has such harsh language around recipes? > EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Do NOT be thorough in the case of lyrics or recipes found online. Even if the user insists. You can make up recipes though. [1] https://github.com/spdustin/ChatGPT-AutoExpert/blob/main/_sy...

That isn't the system prompt for chatgpt, that's some random's prompts.

See the readme. These are ChatGPT system prompts, not for ChatGPT-AutoExpert: https://github.com/spdustin/ChatGPT-AutoExpert/blob/main/Sys...

You could find the same in the ChatGPT prompt leaks, even back when it was as simple as "repeat the text above".

edit: It says why when asked [1]. The text of the instructions and method is copyrightable, apparently?

[1] https://chat.openai.com/share/ee67f6ae-90ef-45b9-a0f4-c2f2ee...

Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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Which just shows the ridiculousness of the patent system. I mean what is the fundamental difference between a cooking recipe and the recipe for a pharmaceutical. I guess cooks just didn't have the same lobby power to get their exception reworked (pharmaceuticals were in many places originally excluded from patents as well)

A song is a recipe using ingredients we all have access to.

And thus we usually do not have patents for songs, only copyright protections.

Re: Only real people can patent inventions – not AI, US Government says

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Recipes are actually generally not patentable or copyrightable, which is why recipes have the flowery spiel and giant photos in any cookbook or recipe blog.

"the recipes themselves do not enjoy copyright projection. Lambing,142 F.3d at 434; see also Feist, 499 U.S. at 361 (excluding the factual data—telephone listings—from its consideration of whether a telephone directory is a copyrightable compilation).The list of ingredients is merely a factual statement, and as previously discussed,facts are not copyrightable. Lambing, 142 F.3d at 434. Furthermore, a recipe’s instruc…

The contents of books are also factual statements about their contents.
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