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Has Duolingo ever worked for actual language learning? It has always seemed more like pseudo-productivity to me.
DuoLingo is just step 1, to build the vocab. Step 2 once you finish a DuoLingo track is to watch shows in a foreign language with subtitles in that language (NOT ENGLISH SUBTITLES, very important). Step 3 is finding a conversation buddy.
If course they won't do it, it's simpler to just space-repeat vocabulary and spend the money on people with green bird costumes making tiktoks
Duolingo doesn't actually do much if anything to help you become fluent. Nor does almost all the language learning apps such as Drops, Rosetta Stone, etc. What you need to move towards fluency is a lot of "comprehensible input" like with "Dreaming Spanish". Learning about a language is different from acquiring a language, Krashen et. all has a lot of research on how people actually gain fluency. What most people are…
Anki is suggested for SRS, but are there decks available with audio? That would be a pretty near Duolingo replacement in my books.
Duolingo doesn't actually do much if anything to help you become fluent. Nor does almost all the language learning apps such as Drops, Rosetta Stone, etc. What you need to move towards fluency is a lot of "comprehensible input" like with "Dreaming Spanish". Learning about a language is different from acquiring a language, Krashen et. all has a lot of research on how people actually gain fluency. What most people are…
I'd love to read this - but can't log into UQ. Can you repost or provide more detail please?
Basically, keep just listen to/read things in the target language, that you barely understand. Don't bother with grammar and rules, that's not how anyone thinks or speaks a language.
I'd love to see what's in OP's link, though.
It's very well designed. The spaced repetition is effective. The lesson order is sensible. The Romanian lessons have a real speaker narrating the pronunciation, compared to Duolingo's AI narrator, which was terrible for learning.
I tried Duolingo briefly but the over-gamification wasn't for me. Everything was about gems and lives, major turnoff.
Duolingo doesn't actually do much if anything to help you become fluent. Nor does almost all the language learning apps such as Drops, Rosetta Stone, etc. What you need to move towards fluency is a lot of "comprehensible input" like with "Dreaming Spanish". Learning about a language is different from acquiring a language, Krashen et. all has a lot of research on how people actually gain fluency. What most people are…
One of the main disappointments with Duolingo's recent path for me has been the removal of the forum. It was so useful whenever I was confused by a certain phrase or new concept to just hop directly into the discussion forum page for that exercise and see others asking the same questions and getting well-written intuitive answers to them. Just boosted my understanding so much plus added a sense of community, that we'…
Those forums were mainly a band-aid for DL's complete refusal to actually explain any of the grammar.
Still, in terms of forums, a lot of the time Googling will lead you to various subreddits that have some good conversations and explanations.
Duolingo doesn't actually do much if anything to help you become fluent. Nor does almost all the language learning apps such as Drops, Rosetta Stone, etc. What you need to move towards fluency is a lot of "comprehensible input" like with "Dreaming Spanish". Learning about a language is different from acquiring a language, Krashen et. all has a lot of research on how people actually gain fluency. What most people are…
You need to know very little of the language to get started. Just find someone who's willing to talk to you in said language, and you'll fill in the gaps as you go.
For a course format with more audio exposure? Speakly
For an immersion-based approach that will help you improve reading fluency massively once you know just a little bit? LingQ