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Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#51
post #47

Time for me to slowly start looking for an alternative. There was a time when I wanted to move away from it and was eyeing HAProxy, but the lack of the ability to serve static files didn't convince me. Then there was Traefik, but I never looked too much into it, because Nginx is working just fine for me. My biggest hope was Cloudflare's Rust-based Pingora pre-announcement, which was then never published as Open Sourc…

Maybe take a look at Caddy (https://caddyserver.com/)

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#52
post #47

Time for me to slowly start looking for an alternative. There was a time when I wanted to move away from it and was eyeing HAProxy, but the lack of the ability to serve static files didn't convince me. Then there was Traefik, but I never looked too much into it, because Nginx is working just fine for me. My biggest hope was Cloudflare's Rust-based Pingora pre-announcement, which was then never published as Open Sourc…

Caddy, simple & easy, almost zeroconf.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#53
post #45

This isn’t just “a core nginx dev” — this is Maxim Dounin! He is nginx. I would consider putting his name in the title. (And if I were F5, I’d have given him anything he asked for to not leave, including concessions on product vision.) That said, I’m not sure how much leg he has to stand on for using the word nginx itself in the new product’s name and domain…

He *is* nginx ? https://freenginx.org/hg/nginx I don't see it. Sure, he contributes. But in the last 3-4 years he definitely does not look like he is nginx based on that log. Or am I looking in the wrong place?

There's something wrong with the list. It's ostensibly sorted reverse chronologically but scroll further and you'll see it go from 2020-03-03 to "9 months ago" and from there on it's all him.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#54
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rage-fork doesn’t show up anywhere in their announcement, nor does it read like they’re doing something specifically out of rage. Everyone has a right to forking the project. Only time will tell if they get critical mass of developers to keep it going.

Surely "Nginx" is trademarked, copyrighted, etc. A cool and collected fork would do some basic work to avoid trivial lawsuits, consider the other forks already in the space, and write up a bit on how this fork will be different from the others.

A quick glance at USPTO and https://www.f5.com/company/policies/trademarks confirms this.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world has moved on in the sense that "good enough" and cloud eats into their balance sheets I'm sure, but there's loads and loads of banks and legacy enterprises that maintain their ivory tower data centers and there's nothing to replace these with AFAIK. Google has Maglev, AWS perhaps something similar, MS no idea, everyone else just buys F5 or doesn't need it.

Amazon used to run entirely behind Citrix NetScaler hardware; no F5 at all. This was back in the early 2010s so I assume things have changed by now.

Yup - there was a massive internal push to move off of SSL terminating LBs back in ~2018

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#57
post #7

There is no news other than this individual post. I wish he could describe it more. It says it is free but where is the github page for it?

There's a world of software out there that's not on github or using git. "I don't always git clone, but when I do, it's hg clone"

I was working at a startup where a potential VC sent over their questionnaire with a question of where the github repo was located. Since we were not using github, and using a totally different git repo service, I was forced to move the repo to github just because of this question.

Some people just don't have a clue and only know buzzwords

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#58
post #45

This isn’t just “a core nginx dev” — this is Maxim Dounin! He is nginx. I would consider putting his name in the title. (And if I were F5, I’d have given him anything he asked for to not leave, including concessions on product vision.) That said, I’m not sure how much leg he has to stand on for using the word nginx itself in the new product’s name and domain…

He *is* nginx ? https://freenginx.org/hg/nginx I don't see it. Sure, he contributes. But in the last 3-4 years he definitely does not look like he is nginx based on that log. Or am I looking in the wrong place?

I think the mercurial log is not doing us any favors here, most of the first few pages is the history of the `quic` http/3 support branch which indeed Maxim is not working on. Scroll past it and he'll be much more prevalent. See for example the log of stable-1.24: https://freenginx.org/hg/nginx/shortlog/420f96a6f7ac

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a world of software out there that's not on github or using git. "I don't always git clone, but when I do, it's hg clone"

I have mixed feeling about github's dominance. They have created facebook for devs and uplifted collaboration of software to a high level, but I can't help but feel like I'm renting storage space in someone else's private shop when I use them. Yes you get engagement, yes you get one link to share your dev profile and timeline grid in CV, but it's a for profit business that is run by MS.

>>I have mixed feeling about github's dominance.

Yep - I remember what happened with Source Forge/VA Linux. I actually paid for github when it first came out, just to fund it.

Still makes me nervous tbh

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