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Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by jvolkman »

karolist wrote: post #26
SteveNuts wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last two companies I've worked for have paid for Nginx+ since software LB is all we really need. Handling a few thousand RPS is nothing to nginx, and doesn't require fancy hardware. That said, it replaced Kemp load balancers, which it seems is the next biggest competitor in the hardware load balancer appliance space.

The world has moved on in the sense that "good enough" and cloud eats into their balance sheets I'm sure, but there's loads and loads of banks and legacy enterprises that maintain their ivory tower data centers and there's nothing to replace these with AFAIK. Google has Maglev, AWS perhaps something similar, MS no idea, everyone else just buys F5 or doesn't need it.

Amazon used to run entirely behind Citrix NetScaler hardware; no F5 at all. This was back in the early 2010s so I assume things have changed by now.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by pbaam »

What a coincidence, some days ago I was reading some HN posts related to lighttpd and I found [1]. The link is dead and it has inappropriate content, so use arhive.org. The author doesn't go too much in detail of why nginx being purchased is a problem, but in how to configure lighttpd. And the first comment predicts the hypothetical case of F5 being problematic.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19413901

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by amne »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #35

This isn’t just “a core nginx dev” — this is Maxim Dounin! He is nginx. I would consider putting his name in the title. (And if I were F5, I’d have given him anything he asked for to not leave, including concessions on product vision.) That said, I’m not sure how much leg he has to stand on for using the word nginx itself in the new product’s name and domain…

He *is* nginx ?

https://freenginx.org/hg/nginx

I don't see it. Sure, he contributes. But in the last 3-4 years he definitely does not look like he is nginx based on that log. Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by MiguelHudnandez »

Kluggy wrote: post #20
larodi wrote: post #6

Is called "rage-fork" perhaps this. So proposed title: nginx dev rage-forks over security disagreement with boss company But then perhaps he also has every right to do it, even though AFAIR the original author was somebody else.

Rage-fork doesn’t show up anywhere in their announcement, nor does it read like they’re doing something specifically out of rage. Everyone has a right to forking the project. Only time will tell if they get critical mass of developers to keep it going.

It's worth pointing out that Maxim Dounin is, by himself, likely critical mass for Nginx. Since he started in 2011 he is by far the most active contributor to the codebase.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by qwertox »

Time for me to slowly start looking for an alternative.

There was a time when I wanted to move away from it and was eyeing HAProxy, but the lack of the ability to serve static files didn't convince me. Then there was Traefik, but I never looked too much into it, because Nginx is working just fine for me.

My biggest hope was Cloudflare's Rust-based Pingora pre-announcement, which was then never published as Open Source.

Now that I googled for the Pingora name I found Oxy, which might be Pingora? Googling for this yields

> Although Pingora, another proxy server developed by us in Rust, shares some similarities with Oxy, it was intentionally designed as a separate proxy server with a different objective.

Any non-Apache recommendations? It should be able to serve static files.

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by bklyn11201 »

nginxforks2402 wrote: post #21

There is another fork already from some "ex-devs from the original team" https://angie.software/en/ https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie

Thanks, I've never seen this fork mentioned before. This alone is compelling:

"Simplifying configuration: the location directive can define several matching expressions at once, which enables combining blocks with shared settings."

Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork

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Post by synergy20 »

pbaam wrote: post #42

What a coincidence, some days ago I was reading some HN posts related to lighttpd and I found [1]. The link is dead and it has inappropriate content, so use arhive.org. The author doesn't go too much in detail of why nginx being purchased is a problem, but in how to configure lighttpd. And the first comment predicts the hypothetical case of F5 being problematic. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19413901

I have been using lighttpd which can also host static content and do proxying, on top of those lighttpd supports cgi/fastcgi/etc out of the box as well, and it takes 4MB memory only by default at start, so it works for both low end embedded systems and large servers.
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