There is another fork already from some "ex-devs from the original team"
https://angie.software/en/
https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie
Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
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Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#22There is no news other than this individual post. I wish he could describe it more. It says it is free but where is the github page for it?
Not everyone uses GitHub. They are using something else: https://freenginx.org/en/docs/contributing_changes.html
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#23Is called "rage-fork" perhaps this. So proposed title: nginx dev rage-forks over security disagreement with boss company But then perhaps he also has every right to do it, even though AFAIR the original author was somebody else.
Why does the identity of the original author matter here?
In my opinion the original author did a really good job, so I found it interesting to know where and whether he might continue his vision.
Edit: I see now from the hg history that Igor hasn't been coding on Nginx for a decade actually.
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#24I don't get it...does not he knows about angie [1]? It was created by NGINX core devs after F5 acquisition if I'm not mistaken and it's a drop-in replacement for NGINX. [1] https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie
> not run by corporate entities
> webserver, llc
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#25> Unfortunately, some new non-technical management at F5 recently decided that they know better how to run open source projects. In particular, they decided to interfere with security policy nginx uses for years, ignoring both the policy and developers’ position. Ah, I completely forgot F5 was involved in this, probably most of everyone else and F5 gets no money from this. Shouldn't matter to them, do they even have…
HAProxy is an enterprise load balancer that's available through Red Hat or other OSS Vendor. Nginx is just so easy to configure...
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#26> Unfortunately, some new non-technical management at F5 recently decided that they know better how to run open source projects. In particular, they decided to interfere with security policy nginx uses for years, ignoring both the policy and developers’ position. Ah, I completely forgot F5 was involved in this, probably most of everyone else and F5 gets no money from this. Shouldn't matter to them, do they even have…
The last two companies I've worked for have paid for Nginx+ since software LB is all we really need. Handling a few thousand RPS is nothing to nginx, and doesn't require fancy hardware. That said, it replaced Kemp load balancers, which it seems is the next biggest competitor in the hardware load balancer appliance space.
The world has moved on in the sense that "good enough" and cloud eats into their balance sheets I'm sure, but there's loads and loads of banks and legacy enterprises that maintain their ivory tower data centers and there's nothing to replace these with AFAIK. Google has Maglev, AWS perhaps something similar, MS no idea, everyone else just buys F5 or doesn't need it.
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#27I don't get it...does not he knows about angie [1]? It was created by NGINX core devs after F5 acquisition if I'm not mistaken and it's a drop-in replacement for NGINX. [1] https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie
This surely is the question. Why not Angie?
Could be related to the fact that Angie offers 'pro' version: https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/
From statement: "Instead, I’m starting an alternative project, which is going to be run by developers, and not corporate entities"
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#28I don't get it...does not he knows about angie [1]? It was created by NGINX core devs after F5 acquisition if I'm not mistaken and it's a drop-in replacement for NGINX. [1] https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie
angie is run by a corporate entity that could do exactly what F5 did.
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#29Worth noting that there are only two active "core" devs, Maxim Dounin (the OP) and Roman Arutyunyan. Maxim is the biggest contributor that is still active. Maxim and Roman account for basically 99% of current development.
So this is a pretty impactful fork. It's not like one of 8 core devs or something. This is 50% of the team.
Edit: Just noticed Sergey Kandaurov isn't listed on GitHub "contributors" because he doesn't have a GitHub account (my bad). So it's more like 33% of the team. Previous releases have been tagged by Maxim, but the latest (today's 1.25.4) was tagged by Sergey.
Re: Freenginx: Core Nginx developer announces fork
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This surely is the question. Why not Angie?
Could be related to the fact that Angie offers 'pro' version: https://wbsrv.ru/angie-pro/docs/en/ From statement: "Instead, I’m starting an alternative project, which is going to be run by developers, and not corporate entities"
Hm.
I guess this consultancy-on-a-paid-version model doesn't bother me (and clearly didn't bother the developer of freenginx while they were paying him).
But a double fork can't be good.