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Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by baggy_trough »

jjk7 wrote: post #19
tristor wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All aviation, altogether, private jets inclusive, is less than 3% of world emissions. Getting people fired up about rich people using private jets is just a distraction from the truth in the same way that paper straws are. The reality is that a small handful of industries generate the majority of pollution, and they have no meaningful regulatory pressure to stop, and that even that mostly pales in comparison to the e…

3% is a pretty big reduction for such a simple thing...

You think getting rid of aviation is a simple thing?

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by baggy_trough »

avgcorrection wrote: post #16
andy_ppp wrote: post #3

Anyone else think banning private jets would be generally a much better thing for climate? I find it pretty shocking the rich are allowed to pollute the way they do.

Rich people cause climate change by architecting society (just look around). Their private jets don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

What does that mean?

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by reducesuffering »

tristor wrote: post #4
andy_ppp wrote: post #3

Anyone else think banning private jets would be generally a much better thing for climate? I find it pretty shocking the rich are allowed to pollute the way they do.

All aviation, altogether, private jets inclusive, is less than 3% of world emissions. Getting people fired up about rich people using private jets is just a distraction from the truth in the same way that paper straws are. The reality is that a small handful of industries generate the majority of pollution, and they have no meaningful regulatory pressure to stop, and that even that mostly pales in comparison to the e…

This is the NIMBY of polluting. Everyone can point to other emissions and say "mines only 3%, worry about those other 50% guys over there." when I bet one of the top "small handful of industries" you're going to point to is something like concrete that is literally making affordable buildings for the peasants to live in while homelessness is already far too high.

The real question is what actual reductions you think are easy to make on which particular industries that doesn't make housing, electricity, and heat more expensive for the global median income of $3k, while these people are private jetting to watch a football game in person that's on TV. Because when it comes to 0.5% of emissions, I know I'm going to pick taxing wasteful private jets rather than charge the global poor another $50 they don't have. Not to mention the messaging and optics, ffs look at that thread. Hypocritical private jetting is not how you get people collectively on board to fight climate change. If they have to sacrifice, you do too.

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by kyleblarson »

andy_ppp wrote: post #3

Anyone else think banning private jets would be generally a much better thing for climate? I find it pretty shocking the rich are allowed to pollute the way they do.

How else are they supposed to get to Davos to lecture the peons?

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by JohnFen »

FredPret wrote: post #17
JohnFen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Particularly when they use them for things as optional and ultimately meaningless as seeing a football game in person.

Existence itself is optional and ultimately meaningless. This is why we have football games and why it's meaningful to see it in person, if you like to.

Of course it has meaning to the people doing it. But this is one (of many) example of people who are so self-absorbed that they don't even think twice about doing harm to everyone else in order to engage in a recreational activity that could be done with far less impact. It's that disregard for people that I condemn.

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by baggy_trough »

groestl wrote: post #11
kayodelycaon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’d be better off getting cargo ships to stop using sludge for fuel and getting countries to stop burning coal. Private jets aren’t even close to the worse things. They are just easy targets. Your worst offenders are industry.

> Your worst offenders are industry Which produces for?

People.

Re: 525 Private jets departed Las Vegas after the Super Bowl ended

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Post by [deleted] »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #9
andy_ppp wrote: post #3

Anyone else think banning private jets would be generally a much better thing for climate? I find it pretty shocking the rich are allowed to pollute the way they do.

You’d be better off getting cargo ships to stop using sludge for fuel and getting countries to stop burning coal. Private jets aren’t even close to the worse things. They are just easy targets. Your worst offenders are industry.

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