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Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by killthebuddha »

vwkd wrote: post #260
dgellow wrote: post #212

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I interact with ChatGPT by voice pretty often, they have the best speech recognition I’ve ever seen. I can switch between languages (English, French, German) mid-sentence, think aloud, stop mid sentence, the correct what I just said, use highly technical terms (even describe code), I don’t even double check anymore because it’s almost always transcribed correctly. They can ~easily evolve the product to a more general…

Do you use the voice chat in the ChatGPT app? In my experience, stopping to talk even for a moment already makes it submit. This makes a real conversation with pauses for thought difficult, because of the need to hurry before it cuts off.

FWIW if you hold down the big white button it won't submit until you release it. I had no idea this was a thing until seeing someone tweet about it.

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Post by inglor_cz »

vonjuice wrote: post #384
inglor_cz wrote: post #297

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That assumes that being a pacifist when living under the umbrella of the most powerful military in the world is, in fact, a virtue. I don't think so. In order to be virtuous, one should have some skin in the game. I would respect dedicated pacifists in Kyiv a lot more. I wouldn't agree with them, but at least they would be ready to face pretty stark consequences of their philosophical belief. Living in the Silicon Va…

That's kind of like saying that not being a murderer only has moral value if you're constantly under mortal threat yourself.

I don't really see the comparison. Not being a murderer isn't a virtue, it is just normal behavior for 99,9 per cent of the population.

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Post by jeremiahbuckley »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #380
dustingetz wrote: post #248

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this is disrupting education. you can get a better undergraduate education in STEM on youtube than my paid education 20 years ago. I think those visualizations can even pull forward a bunch of stuff into high school.

Well, I get the point and find it appealing but I don't agree. When my kiddo was a sophomore in HS he decided that he wanted to be an engineer, and I thought that it would be really good for him to learn calc- my feeling was that if he got out of HS without at least getting through Calculus he'd have a really hard time. So _I_ learned calculus. I started with basic math on Kahn and moved to the end of the Calc AB syl…

Similar experiences, but different conclusions.

1. With advanced math I feel I retain at the n-1 level. Unless I’m using it, it fades. That’s frustrating but I don’t think it’s the fault of the deliverer.

I do think working through problems has to be part of the practice, I’ve bought workbooks to have something to try to drive the knowledge into muscle memory. It still fades, but maybe not as much.

2. Calculus, in particular seems super unimportant to real life. Stats and Linear Algebra, somewhat similar in Math Level, seem much more applicable. I’m very happy to see Stats being offered in high school now as an alternative to Calculus. For Calculus, you almost need to learn 3-4 rules and someone says “trust me, just memorize these, don’t spend too much time on this.” And you would be able to live a happy productive life.

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Post by _tk_ »

jorvi wrote: post #350
bigyikes wrote: post #305

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Do you have any examples? I find this hard to believe.

That’s kind of the point, you won’t be able to due to the algorithm. I can give you something analogous though: I’m a big fan of old school east coast hip-hop. You have the established mainline artists from back then (“Nas”, “Jay-Z”, “Big L”, etc), then you have a the established underground artists (say, “Lord Finesse” or “Kool G Rap”), and then you have the really really underground guys like “Mr. Low Kash ‘n Da Sh…

Somewhat off-topic, but what do you feel like are the best techniques to find the artists in Tier 2 and 3? I face a similar conundrum just in a different genre.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by [deleted] »

inglor_cz wrote: post #254
bayindirh wrote: post #245

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You don't lose your luster only by not innovating. Altman saga, allowing military use and other small things step by step tarnish your reputation and pushes you to the mediocrity or worse. Microsoft has many great development stories (read Raymond Chen's blog to be awed), but what they did at the end to other competitors and how they behave removed their luster, permanently for some people.

"allowing military use" That would actually increase their standing in my eyes. Not too far from where I live, Russian bombing is destroying homes of people whose language is similar to mine and whose "fault" is that they don't want to submit to rule from Moscow, direct or indirect. If OpenAI can somehow help stop that, I am all for it.

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Post by slater- »

laborcontract wrote: post #42
iaseiadit wrote: post #34

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ImageNet was very influential, but this just shows he was eighth author on a twelve author paper from almost a decade ago. Is there better evidence of sustained contributions to the field?

Hm, well, I see on his resume that he was a founder of OpenAI, recruited to be Tesla's head of AI, went back to OpenAI, and also has the most viewed educational videos in this space. So, he has made theoretical contributions to the space, contributions to prominent private organizations in the space, and broadly educated others about the space. What more are you looking for?

You left out a few prepositions like off the space, toward the space, from the space, and down the space.

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Post by godelski »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #110
lyapunova wrote: post #60

Let me say, he's a great teacher! I took a CV class with him. He should teach more, and take it seriously. Being a popular AI influencer is not necessarily correlated with being a good researcher though. And I would argue there is a strong indication that it is negatively correlated with being a good business leader / founder. Here's to hoping he chills out and goes back to the sorely needed lost art of explaining co…

>He should teach more, and take it seriously. if only we compensated that knowledge properly. Youtube seems to come the closest, but Youtube educators also show how much time you have to spend attracting views instead of teaching expertise. > It makes you a target for offers and opportunities because of your name/influence, but not necessarily because of your underlying "best fit" That's unfortunately life in a nutsh…

> if only we compensated that knowledge properly.

Something I've been thinking a lot about is the transition into post scarcity and how we need to dramatically alter the incentive structures and payment allocations.

I've been asking this question for about a decade and still have no good solutions: "What do you do when x% of your workforce is unemployable?" (being that x% of jobs are removed without replacement. Imagine sophisticated and cheap robots. Or if needed, magic)

This is a thought experiment, so your answer can't be "there'll be new jobs." Even if you believe that's what'll happen in real life, it's not in bounds of the thought experiment. It is best to consider multiple values of x because it is likely to change and that would more reflect a post scarcity transition. It is not outside the realms of possibility that in the future you can obtain food, shelter, and medical care for free or at practically no cost. "Too cheap to meter" if you will.

I'll give you two answers that I've gotten that I find interesting. I do not think either are great and they each have issues. 1) jobs programs. Have people do unnecessary jobs simply so they create work wherein we can compensate them. 2) Entertainment. People are, on average, far more interested in watching people play chess against one another than computers, despite the computer being better. So reasons that this ,,might,, not go away.

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