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Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by lukan »

next_xibalba wrote: post #48
bbor wrote: post #43

I'm judging from his pinned tweet, "The hottest new programming language is English", that "those of you who know me know what I'm working on ;)" message at the end of this seems like a nod to developer tools of some kind. Which would track for a tech visionary, a hacker can't resist making himself better tools I guess. Anybody have better info than my idle guess?

He has speculated a few times about an LLM based OS. That’d be way cool.

Honestly? Sounds like a nightmare. I mean, some LLM integrated into a OS, ok, might make sense, but the OS based on LLM is not something I would want with the current state of the art.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

#52

Post by jjtheblunt »

next_xibalba wrote: post #48
bbor wrote: post #43

I'm judging from his pinned tweet, "The hottest new programming language is English", that "those of you who know me know what I'm working on ;)" message at the end of this seems like a nod to developer tools of some kind. Which would track for a tech visionary, a hacker can't resist making himself better tools I guess. Anybody have better info than my idle guess?

He has speculated a few times about an LLM based OS. That’d be way cool.

Why?

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

#53

Post by option »

p1esk wrote: post #50
jprd wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investors will line-up to fund a lack of return on their investment? I'd absolutely donate, but that's not what investors want for their money, unfortunately :(

These two individuals can probably raise a billion dollars within a month if they wanted to start their own AI company.

On a 10B valuation )

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

#55

Post by zindlerb »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #44

"I told them Xerox has got to get itself together, because there's no way a big company can take advantage of things moving this fast. People will get frustrated and start their own companies." —Carver Mead, 1979 (employee at Xerox PARC), discussing why Xerox needed to focus more on adopting integrated circuits into the computers they had already developed, instead of continuing to just make increasingly-obsolete cop…

I don't think that is an apt metaphor. Imo Openai is Apple and Google is Parc. Google experiencing a similar issue to parc where they invented transformers but have been unable to capture the value so far due to being focused on ads revenue.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

#58

Post by lolinder »

llamaLord wrote: post #57
jjtheblunt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Non-deterministic outputs... For one (rather important) thing.

I can think of lots of reasons why non-deterministic outputs at the OS level is a bad idea, but what are the benefits?

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

#59

Post by ProllyInfamous »

zindlerb wrote: post #55
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #44

"I told them Xerox has got to get itself together, because there's no way a big company can take advantage of things moving this fast. People will get frustrated and start their own companies." —Carver Mead, 1979 (employee at Xerox PARC), discussing why Xerox needed to focus more on adopting integrated circuits into the computers they had already developed, instead of continuing to just make increasingly-obsolete cop…

I don't think that is an apt metaphor. Imo Openai is Apple and Google is Parc. Google experiencing a similar issue to parc where they invented transformers but have been unable to capture the value so far due to being focused on ads revenue.

Great nuanced distinction.

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"Xerox's top executives were for the most part salesmen of copy machines. From these leased behemoths the revenue stream was as tangible as the `click` of the meters counting off copies, for which the customer paid Xerox so many cents per page (and from which Xerox paid its salespersons their commissions). Noticing their eyes narrow [at R&D's attempts at asking to market their computer, one] could almost hear them thinking: 'If there is no paper to be copied, where's the `click`?' In other words: 'How will I get paid?' "

—Michael Hiltzik's "Dealers of Lightning" (p272)

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by lyapunova »

Let me say, he's a great teacher! I took a CV class with him. He should teach more, and take it seriously.

Being a popular AI influencer is not necessarily correlated with being a good researcher though. And I would argue there is a strong indication that it is negatively correlated with being a good business leader / founder.

Here's to hoping he chills out and goes back to the sorely needed lost art of explaining complicated things in elegant ways, and doesn't stray too far back into wasting time with all the top sheisters of the valley.

Edit: the more I think about it, the more I realize that it probably screws with a person to have their tweets get b-lined to the front page of hackernews. It makes you a target for offers and opportunities because of your name/influence, but not necessarily because of your underlying "best fit"

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